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    ...just believe natatbeach's Avatar
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    sigh of relief

    I was almost afraid to read what you were going to say....

    It's just that Nat's original post and Adina's response seem almost like observations a GUY would have on the subject. I mean, WE'RE the ones that were shocked the first time we saw "beautiful" or famous women without any makeup on. Or how a somewhat "plain" face or "ugly duckling" can be transformed into a stunner with the right makeup look and styling.I always figured women instinctively knew all this stuff. I mean, didn't you ladies start using makeup, even if it was just play, as little girls?

    Us girl's...we really do know that make up can transform us from a beast to a "beauty" but on that rare occasion that the make-up comes together well (about 5 times a year- he he) it is quite shocking how well it all works together and how different we can look.

    I'm a really big fan of a guy named Kevyn Aucoin who was an amazing artist---I could look at his books and transforamtion of women and it floors me...how pigmented powders and cremes can do that http://cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/intera...content.1.html



    Anyway, my slightly off-center sense of humor aside,

    Surely you jest---it couldn't be yourself, that you're refering to (see first line of post )


    Thnaks for looking and for your input from your experience.....
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    I wasn't trying to change society, or to be ahead of my time.
    I didn't think of myself as liberated, and I don't believe that I did anything important.
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    Yeah, I'm a big fan of Kevyn, too...

    Any of his books are great reference manuals for makeup. What he was so good at was playfully "painting" women, both famous and unknown, to create virtually any kind of look he wanted, including classic celebrities throughout history. So sad that he's gone...

    The main book I use now to help pinpoint looks for my stylists is called, MAKEUP YOUR MIND by Francois Nars. What makes this book so interesting is that there are hundreds of pics of models with and without makeup.

    Many of them are famous models, and yet the majority of the women without makeup had a very andogynous or boyish look. I'm sure this would come as a surprise, if not shock, to most men...

    Quote Originally Posted by natatbeach
    I was almost afraid to read what you were going to say....

    It's just that Nat's original post and Adina's response seem almost like observations a GUY would have on the subject. I mean, WE'RE the ones that were shocked the first time we saw "beautiful" or famous women without any makeup on. Or how a somewhat "plain" face or "ugly duckling" can be transformed into a stunner with the right makeup look and styling.I always figured women instinctively knew all this stuff. I mean, didn't you ladies start using makeup, even if it was just play, as little girls?

    Us girl's...we really do know that make up can transform us from a beast to a "beauty" but on that rare occasion that the make-up comes together well (about 5 times a year- he he) it is quite shocking how well it all works together and how different we can look.

    I'm a really big fan of a guy named Kevyn Aucoin who was an amazing artist---I could look at his books and transforamtion of women and it floors me...how pigmented powders and cremes can do that http://cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/intera...content.1.html



    Anyway, my slightly off-center sense of humor aside,

    Surely you jest---it couldn't be yourself, that you're refering to (see first line of post )


    Thnaks for looking and for your input from your experience.....
    "Riding along on a carousel...tryin' to catch up to you..."

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    I'll have to check out Francois Nars...I love the before and after thing so I can see what went where. Thanks for the info....

    It is sad that Kevyn died at such a young age...it's almost like we ended up with only a glimpse of his genius at work...very sad---and a major loss.
    "I was not trying to be shocking, or to be a pioneer.
    I wasn't trying to change society, or to be ahead of my time.
    I didn't think of myself as liberated, and I don't believe that I did anything important.
    I was just myself. I didn't know any other way to be, or any other way to live."
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    You know Steve, I think all girls are boys at heart, and all boys are girls at heart. Most boys just can't get in touch with their feminine side at all, and some boys can.

    Try living with three woman all the time (wife and 2 daughters), it is an effort because you always get roused on about the toilet seat.

    When the girls get a little older then they can start playing around with make-up, until then have to experiment in other ways I suppose.

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