Again, all your responses are based on the fact that you believe there is one god, and the bible is his word.

If you do not believe that, then your arguements hold no more water than the guy down the street who claims he was abducted and probed by aliens.

To you, any arguement other than your own is false and lies, because you strongly believe what you believe. To someone who believes differently, thier arguement is going to true, and yours is false and lies. It is a matter of personal belief, which is why it is subjective, therefor not an absolute truth, except to those who believe that.

And as far as whether I care why you feel the need to enlighten us, I don't. To me, you are another name on the internet, which is why I can discuss this calmly. Your opinion doesn't influence my life in the least, so it doesn't make me angry or upset to hear you say that you are right and everyone else is wrong.

And, if we are going for the sake of arguement, let's take it this way. Suppose you are wrong, and someone else is right. Then what?

You can't start a discussion, and ask someone to believe "for the sake of arguement" and not be willing to do the same.

I am willing to accept that you believe that there is one god, and thru him you will be saved. I'm happy for anyone who has found something they can believe in that helps to make them a better person. However, I stand by the fact that religous beliefs are a personal choice, and therefor there is no absolute truth, only the truth as you see it.

As far as whether or not we are awake and paying attention, we are. To our beliefs, which everyone is happy to discuss. However, this thread is leaning less towards discussing, and more towards telling.