I took this shot hand held tonight at 8:44 PM across a pond. The train is about 80ft long and probably about 10ft tall. You can see the reflection in the pond. I was about 350 to 400 ft away from the train up the embankment on one side of the pond and it was on the other side of the pond on the bank. A tripod would have produced a better picture but it was just too heavy for me to carry for the 2 1/2 mile walk through the park. I just re-sized it and posted it, Jeff