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    Re: Well, a good story for you then...

    Quote Originally Posted by Asylum Steve

    Believe me, I thanked the photo gods that night. Sometimes it IS better to be lucky than good... :thumbsup:

    Amen!!! How many times has that happened for me???
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    Re: Annie Leibovitz - American Masters Jan 3

    I've had my share of lucky shots, but none good enough to grace the cover of a magazine.

    Congrats on that shot, Steve. It doesn't look like luck to me.

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    Re: Annie Leibovitz - American Masters Jan 3

    Quote Originally Posted by photophorous
    I've had my share of lucky shots, but non good enough to grace the cover of a magazine.

    Congrats on that shot, Steve. It doesn't look like luck to me.

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    I don't think I'd call that particular "cover shot" of hers just another cover.
    That particular photograph John Lennon and Yoko Ono, deserves "icon status", no for Leibovitz, then for John Lennon..
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    Wrong shot...

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbbrian
    I don't think I'd call that particular "cover shot" of hers just another cover.
    That particular photograph John Lennon and Yoko Ono, deserves "icon status", no for Leibovitz, then for John Lennon..
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    Brain, the shot were talking about isn't her famous pic of John and Yoko (with Lennon naked). Rather, the light meter "accident" shot was a close up of Lennon's face and was taken in 1971 (first cover at the top on this page):

    http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/covers/_/year/1971

    By the time she photographed the couple cover (right before Lennon's death), she had become well known and had a much greater sense of what she was doing artistically.
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    Re: Wrong shot...

    Quote Originally Posted by Asylum Steve
    Brain, the shot were talking about isn't her famous pic of John and Yoko (with Lennon naked). Rather, the light meter "accident" shot was a close up of Lennon's face and was taken in 1971 (first cover at the top on this page):

    http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/covers/_/year/1971

    By the time she photographed the couple cover (right before Lennon's death), she had become well known and had a much greater sense of what she was doing artistically.

    Ohhh....

    Regardless, the one I was talking about is an icon.
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    Re: Wrong shot...

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbbrian
    Regardless, the one I was talking about is an icon...
    Very true. In the case of that shot, fate stepped in to propel it to icon status and give it infinitely more emotional power than it would have had otherwise...
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    Re: Wrong shot...

    Quote Originally Posted by Asylum Steve
    Very true. In the case of that shot, fate stepped in to propel it to icon status and give it infinitely more emotional power than it would have had otherwise...
    Kinda makes you wonder what kind of impact that shot would have had if fate had not stepped in.

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    Re: Wrong shot...

    Quote Originally Posted by photophorous
    Kinda makes you wonder what kind of impact that shot would have had if fate had not stepped in.
    No matter what, I think it would have held that status, as an icon, I mean it really captures Lennon's persona and I guess both of theirs Yoko and John too, or maybe their relationship.
    All three I suppose!
    That photograph was done three days before he was killed right?
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    Re: Wrong shot...

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbbrian
    No matter what, I think it would have held that status, as an icon, I mean it really captures Lennon's persona and I guess both of theirs Yoko and John too, or maybe their relationship.
    All three I suppose!
    That photograph was done three days before he was killed right?
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    No, it was done hours before he was shot...I think she says 5 hours in the show.

    I agree that photo would be an icon regardless, but I think people might have viewed it differently. Just a thought. I was only 3 at the time, so what do I know.

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    Re: Wrong shot...

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbbrian
    That photograph was done three days before he was killed right?..."
    I'm trying to remember from the special, but I think the session was literally hours before Lennon was murdered...

    As for the impact of the shot had he lived, I think it would have simply entered the stable of her other memorable portraits.

    At the time of Lennon's death, he was back on the music charts with his final album, Double Fantasy, but it was a very mellow, warm and fuzzy Lennon (which I find very ironic considering his barrage of attacks over the years on fellow Beatle Paul McCartney's "silly love songs").

    Point is, he was more of a murmur than a thunderclap, and seemed quite content to live the quiet life of a house-husband with only occasional recording and performing.

    IMO, while already a legend, it was his brutal and untimely death that elevated him to a much higher mythical status. And the photo as well...
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    Re: Wrong shot...

    You all should check out the movie "The US vs John Lennon" if you're interested in he and Yoko. It was in indie theatres a few months ago.
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    Re: Annie Leibovitz - American Masters Jan 3

    Quote Originally Posted by photophorous
    Congrats on that shot, Steve. It doesn't look like luck to me...
    Thanks. Truth is, you make your own "luck" much of the time by learning your craft inside and out, being well prepared, and knowing how to work quickly under pressure. It's more a question of not missing shots that appear before you...

    In this case, let's just say that, based on her expression and pose in the one shot that worked compositionally, I was extremely fortunate...

    BTW, there were other shots from the group that could have been used in a pinch, but none were even close to as good as the one we did use.
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    Re: Annie Leibovitz - American Masters Jan 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Asylum Steve
    Thanks. Truth is, you make your own "luck" much of the time by learning your craft inside and out, being well prepared, and knowing how to work quickly under pressure. It's more a question of not missing shots that appear before you...
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    And sometimes it's just getting over a stigma in your own head. I recently used a "test" shot in which the subject was holding a gray card. To my chagrin, nobody cared. In fact, everyone loved the shot....

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