Quote Originally Posted by DYER
ok im a real novice and have tried to shoot at box hill in London probably as dark as it is gonna get but i either get completely black photos or ok ones can someone xplain how to get nice ones as it is a pain in the arese to mews up 3 quarters of a film

Even us "pros" don't get a perfect shot every time. I can shoot 100 frames and get 10 the papers could/would use. Sometimes they take the worst of the best....or even worst of the worst....
We play with all the settings to get the result we want, there is no perfect setting for a particular shot, it all depends on what YOU want for the final outcome and the lighting you have to work with at the time and how you utilise your gear to get what you want.

JS