Quote Originally Posted by Frog
I guess I don't fit on "the list" because I think that if ufos are piloted by some sort of intelligence that intelligence is not alien.
I read somewhere that UFOs are just teenaged aliens who like to buzz primitive planets to create panic. I forget where I read that.

On all the planets and moons around all the stars in all the galaxies, we surely can't be "all there is". Come on, just look at us. Look at what we do to one another and listen how we talk to each other.
This is the logical fallicy I promised to explain. Whether you realize it or not, you are using statistics. But for statistics to have meaning, you must know something about the underlying premise.

The fact of the matter is that man does not yet know what life is. Sure, you can have all sorts of guesses and beliefs but in actual fact no one has any clue. We can say "this is dead" or "this is alive" and even then it's not always clear. Take a virus for example! But we have no idea what is different about that difference.

So, for all those people who decide that the universe is just so big there has to be other intelligent life out there, there is also the equal but opposite view: maybe life is so incredibly difficult to achieve and incredibly rare that it takes an entire universe to get one example of it.

Both arguments are equal and there is no way to tell which is right.

Please, I know the "faithful" out there will throw all sorts of supernatural stuff out but hey, religion is just something people want to believe so they can feel happy at night. It doesn't help choose the real truth here any more than talk of Valhalla and the valkyries and norns do.