oh wow! thank you so much for all your contribution to this thread! I was looking for a reasonable deal on Canon 5D mark ii, to my surprise a google search brought an sponsored listing from these guys: EOS 5D Mark II $2464

after looking at their site, I decided to do the research before taking any steps, and boy am I happy to have found this thread.

I am glad I clicked on their google sponsored listing and caused advertising cost without giving them my business. You should do the same!!! keep these suckers out of camera business.

- Moe