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    Re: Vermont Photographer "Banned"

    Well I dont really care if any of you agree or not with me. I wont take any sides with anyone just because he takes nice pics, thats just stupid. Its obvious you can not discuss anything with people who behave like fanboys....Ive had it, really. I think there are other photography sites out there for me. Its obvious too i wont have any non-biased feedback about things i want to learn now so I move on. Have fun talking crap about my posts and enjoy yourselves.

    Please do as you please with my membership here, I prefer to have it terminated.

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    Re: Vermont Photographer "Banned"

    Quote Originally Posted by chaman
    Well I dont really care if any of you agree or not with me. I wont take any sides with anyone just because he takes nice pics, thats just stupid. Its obvious you can not discuss anything with people who behave like fanboys....Ive had it, really. I think there are other photography sites out there for me. Its obvious too i wont have any non-biased feedback about things i want to learn now so I move on. Have fun talking crap about my posts and enjoy yourselves.

    Please do as you please with my membership here, I prefer to have it terminated.

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    Sorry to see you go chaman. I don't think that we were trying to rail against you. Speaking only for myself, it was interesting to see this from the perspective of a different culture. Still, the alleged offense was committed in the US, and is therefor subject to US law, which pretty clearly defines his actions as legal (again, in my opinion).

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    Re: Vermont Photographer "Banned"

    Quote Originally Posted by chaman
    Well I dont really care if any of you agree or not with me. I wont take any sides with anyone just because he takes nice pics, thats just stupid. Its obvious you can not discuss anything with people who behave like fanboys....Ive had it, really.
    I don't see anyone acting like fanboys.

    I know my entire approach to this issue is looking at what evidence is provided and what the laws are regarding the rights of both the woman and the photographer. As of now, the evidence provided shows that the photographer was well within his rights. Just because someone found him 'creepy' doesn't make what he's doing illegal. There's a lot of things that I find people doing that's creepy. Very rarely is any of it illegal.
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    Re: Vermont Photographer "Banned"

    Quote Originally Posted by chaman
    Well I dont really care if any of you agree or not with me. I wont take any sides with anyone just because he takes nice pics, thats just stupid. Its obvious you can not discuss anything with people who behave like fanboys....Ive had it, really. I think there are other photography sites out there for me. Its obvious too i wont have any non-biased feedback about things i want to learn now so I move on. Have fun talking crap about my posts and enjoy yourselves.

    Please do as you please with my membership here, I prefer to have it terminated.

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    Obviously me, and most here don't agree with you, it's not personal, and it's certainly not because I like the photographers work. I haven't seen anyone say that's why they don't agree with you. It's about rights, and losing those rights. It's the foundation of what this country is founded on. As my freedoms are removed in the name of security the whole country moves to something other than what it was founded on.

    I agree with the law. So it still comes back to: if you don't want to be photographed, don't go outside. BTW, you still haven't answered on how a photograph can become a weapon. I don't say this to make you feel or look bad, I would prefer you come to the correct conclusion on your own, hence the reason I ask the question, maybe you'll change my opinion.

    Photography has become a borderline crime in a lot of peoples minds due to media hype and misguided law "enforcement" by the TSA. Peoples minds immediately go to the negative and imaginations run wild as to what and why a person is photographing.

    I am a landscape/architecture photographer, and I rarely photograph people because of this kind of hysteria. I have been stopped from photographing a barn once and that made me check into what the law said on that matter.

    Finally, just because I don't agree with you on this subject is no reason for me to withhold information or advice from you. That would be as childish as me quitting this site because I didn't agree with someone on a subject. Diversity is what makes this country, and this site great. We don't always agree here, but I've found this is probably the friendliest photography forum on the web.
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