Post #800 - Mountains and Philosophy

[walterick]

Hey Megs

"Sometimes you can "sense" people's energy, I think, and I also think that's why the internet fails so awfully at times at interpersonal communications."

I agree. I realized some time ago that if I write normally on this discussion board and don't add enough 's 's 's and ;) 's in my messages I get taken waaaay too seriously! It's not that I'm writing seriously, it's that I can't use my facial features, tone of voice, and... dare I say... aura to help convey the humor of whatever I'm writing. That's a good point.

"There's this white-haired man at B&H where you pick up your bags, and I love seeing him, because he's got such a *feeling* around him."

I love people like that. I want to be one

But - can we photograph this?

Megan, what is your personal take on the Kirlian photography discussed previously in this thread? I'm interested in your opinion on that.

"When She Was Bad"

... you mean... women aren't all sweet innocent creatures? - shocked - I guess there's an exception to every rule. Of course women also commit atrocities. It seems to me like it is in their nature not to and it is only when backed against a wall emotionally that they will kill - not out of defending their own life so much, but out of a survival instinct? I see pictures of mothers dumping their kids in a trashcan, not because they have a desire to kill so much as they can't take it anymore. That kind of thing. In writing that question I was hoping to separate the man's seeming innate desire to kill versus the woman's seeming innate desire to nuture. Does it seem like it's just men out killing everyone and commiting acts of violence? Or is that a stereotype?

Interesting concept for discussion. I'll look for that book online.

Rick

[megan]

It seems to me like it is in their nature not to and it is only when backed against a wall emotionally that they will kill - not out of defending their own life so much, but out of a survival instinct? ......Or is that a stereotype?

Stereotype, and sadly, the most recent headlines prove that. The woman who murdered the other woman in the midwest US for her baby is proof. Yes, I'm sure there is mental illness involved, but.... when do we stop blaming everything except the person with blood on their hands?

Barring mental illness, I submit to you - Black Widows. They marry rich men, use 'em up, and find a way to kill 'em and move on.

Thing is, since women in general can be physically less powerful than men [extreme generalization here, I had a lightweight try to knock me out in the ring because he thought I was hitting him too hard and trying to knock HIM out, yet I was hardly punching], and our socialization regarding violence has traditionally been different than male's, you'll find that much more often, women will hire someone to do the deed.

Interesting book, though, and if you can't find it, I'll mail you my version.

And what is Kirlian photography?

Megan

[walterick]

I guess I would ask this:
Socialization aside, do women commit as many violent acts as men?
I'll still say no, but it looks like that book (I googled) has some statistics indicating otherwise.

I'll leave myself open to facts.

Mind, I'm not saying "women never kill people" that's naive to say the least. What I am saying is that man kill more than women, get involved with violence more than women, commit violent acts more than women, play violent games more than women, revert to violence to resolve conflict more quickly than women, have more testosterone than women, and are generally able to be typified as "more violent." But like I say, I'll leave myself open to the statistical information.

Interesting book, though, and if you can't find it, I'll mail you my version.

Megan, I would take you up on that offer if I weren't the slowest reader in the western hemisphere and already looking at a stack of loner books a foot high That's not a no, just a "later." I did read the surmise of it online and it sounded fascinating. If I were to go looking for that "statistical data" I would start there.

And what is Kirlian photography?

A kind of photography using some sort of electrical coil in the camera to produce an eerey (how do you spell that?!) glow around the subject. It is often written as "proof" of the electric field around people and things. Somewhere in this thread there is a link to a "skeptic's site" that suggests otherwise. Either way, it's pretty!

Here's the "believer's" links:
http://www.kirlian.org/kirlian.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/kirlian.html

Heres "the skeptic's" link:
http://skepdic.com/kirlian.html

Rick