• 01-31-2005, 12:34 PM
    Ryguyinlj
    Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    I'm still somewhat new to these boards, but I did manage to notice a group known as the Nikon Samurai. As a longtime canon user I immediately wonder if there is such a group here for canon. So, is there? If not, should the canon users among us band together and form our own group with a catchy name?
  • 01-31-2005, 12:40 PM
    Axle
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    Why don't you start your own, if that is possible? Moderators? I'll start one for Minolta users, Minolta Warriors!

    Canon Crusaders? :D
  • 01-31-2005, 12:48 PM
    mjs1973
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    I was thinking about this very subject this weekend. There are some Canon Bird Nerds on this site, but that too limiting. I was thinking Canon Camandos
  • 01-31-2005, 02:10 PM
    Ryguyinlj
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mjs1973
    I was thinking about this very subject this weekend. There are some Canon Bird Nerds on this site, but that too limiting. I was thinking Canon Camandos

    Interesting...

    I was thinking maybe Clan de Canon or Canon Paladin or Canon Templar or Canon Zealot The last three ideas I came up with had the purpose of going along with the mideival warroir theme started by the nikon group (nikon samruai)

    These ideas I just came up with off the top of my head. Anyone have any others?
  • 01-31-2005, 02:13 PM
    almo
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    I consider myself a bird nerd, but until i get my canon Dslr I am a quiet bird nerd. More of an unarmed dork really.....:p


    almo
  • 01-31-2005, 02:39 PM
    brianc
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    we don't need a clan. we've already taken over the world and are secure enough in our gear that we don't have to try and convince people that ours is the best.
  • 01-31-2005, 03:13 PM
    Trevor Ash
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brianc
    we don't need a clan. we've already taken over the world and are secure enough in our gear that we don't have to try and convince people that ours is the best.

    I'll take this position as well :)
  • 01-31-2005, 05:15 PM
    Photo-John
    Canon, Nikon, and Minolta Forums?
    Has the time come to add manufacturer-specific forums? This is a touchy subject. Some people are very emotionally attached to a particular manufacturer. Others don't care so much, as long as it does the job. If people will really use Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Leica forums, then I'd be happy to add them. But I'd also be worried that they'd take away from the exiting forums. That's not necessarily the case. But it could happen. I'd actually like to have manufacturer-specific forums, if we can support them. But if they're going to be empty, then I'd rather not.

    Maybe the best thing to do, is if you're interested in having a Canon or Nikon club here, just get it started on your own - informally. When you can come to me and tell me that you have a bunch of participants, I'll start thinking about creating a special forum for you. Does that sound ok?
  • 01-31-2005, 05:28 PM
    Ryguyinlj
    Re: Canon, Nikon, and Minolta Forums?
    I was kind of being sarcastic with the whole "group" thing. I was hoping to maybe just do an informal group like the nikon guys if people were interested. And, I personally don't think that manufacturer-specific forums are a good idea. I like being able to see what other people are doing, and there are many great photographers out there that I would not be able to learn from.
  • 01-31-2005, 05:28 PM
    jar_e
    Re: Canon, Nikon, and Minolta Forums?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Photo-John
    Has the time come to add manufacturer-specific forums? This is a touchy subject. Some people are very emotionally attached to a particular manufacturer. Others don't care so much, as long as it does the job. If people will really use Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Leica forums, then I'd be happy to add them. But I'd also be worried that they'd take away from the exiting forums. That's not necessarily the case. But it could happen. I'd actually like to have manufacturer-specific forums, if we can support them. But if they're going to be empty, then I'd rather not.

    Maybe the best thing to do, is if you're interested in having a Canon or Nikon club here, just get it started on your own - informally. When you can come to me and tell me that you have a bunch of participants, I'll start thinking about creating a special forum for you. Does that sound ok?

    Good idea John. Though I don't really care what brand you own or what lens you got, I do see how people can become loyal to their brand per se. I just like good pictures, regardless of camera and gear (or lack of)! But whether or not having a dedicated forum for each brand, I see no need or real purpose for it. Call me pessimistic, but everything that I believe would happen in Manufacturer forums already happen in the forums we have. Atleast, that's what I think.

    Just my two cents,

    Jared
  • 01-31-2005, 05:33 PM
    Photo-John
    Ohhhhhhhh...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryguyinlj
    I was kind of being sarcastic with the whole "group" thing. I was hoping to maybe just do an informal group like the nikon guys if people were interested. And, I personally don't think that manufacturer-specific forums are a good idea. I like being able to see what other people are doing, and there are many great photographers out there that I would not be able to learn from.

    You got me. Sarcasm doesn't always come across very well on the Web.

    This is an interesting subject, though. Other sites have manufacturer-specific forums. Our mountain bike site (mtbr.com) has a bunch of very busy manufacturer-specific forums that don't appear to take anything away from the rest of the site. People use them to bond with other owners and ask questions about things that are specific to their Trek, Giant, Santa Cruz, etc. I can see this being useful here. But I'm hesitant to do it. If the demand was there I'd give it some serious consideration.
  • 01-31-2005, 07:43 PM
    brianc
    Re: Ohhhhhhhh...
    Actually, you should add the "Tuner" board to your regular rotation. there is a tone ofr great stuff in that forum that would otherwise be missed.

    As for a manufacturer-specific forums here, why dont you try three stickies in the helpfiles. for Canon, Nikon, and other (or however you want to break it out). it would be a good place for brand specific questions and would allow to judge the traffic to see of it would be benificial.
  • 01-31-2005, 08:45 PM
    DownByFive
    Re: Ohhhhhhhh...
    I own a Canon and a Nikon...I'm going to be an outcast...
  • 01-31-2005, 09:09 PM
    walterick
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    Them's fightin words.

    Nikon Samurai #4
  • 01-31-2005, 09:17 PM
    another view
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    John, I think there's a downside to separate forums. Another photo forum does this and it seems like most people in the Nikon forum stay in that forum; most in the Canon/Leica/etc forums stay in there. Some questions come up in those forums that aren't brand specific, and someone with a helpful answer won't even know the question is out there.

    I probably wouldn't check out a Canon forum because I don't shoot it; don't know anything specifically about that brand; and couldn't help anyone or learn anything. Of course, unless posts like I describe come up - and I (as well as probably many others) would miss them.

    I'm a Nikon guy, but I'm only brand loyal because of all of the stuff I've got. Oh, yeah, and the glass... :D
  • 01-31-2005, 10:08 PM
    Dzerzhinski46
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by another view
    John, I think there's a downside to separate forums. Another photo forum does this and it seems like most people in the Nikon forum stay in that forum; most in the Canon/Leica/etc forums stay in there. Some questions come up in those forums that aren't brand specific, and someone with a helpful answer won't even know the question is out there.

    I probably wouldn't check out a Canon forum because I don't shoot it; don't know anything specifically about that brand; and couldn't help anyone or learn anything. Of course, unless posts like I describe come up - and I (as well as probably many others) would miss them.

    I'm a Nikon guy, but I'm only brand loyal because of all of the stuff I've got. Oh, yeah, and the glass... :D

    I would have to agree with another view. Having separate forums for each brand would be divisive, and not encourage the mingiling that occurs at this site. It is much better to have everyone lumped together so we can all get along and contribute. Besides, where would we get the sage advice of the many wise persons ( :rolleyes: :D ) found here if they all happened to be Nikon users? It just seems better to keep everyone together. Stickys might be okay, but why bother?

    Now as for an informal Canon group, I wouldn't mind joining :D . It would stop all those Nikon Samurais from laughing at us poor "other" camera users :p . Just for fun though.

    Dzerzhinski
  • 01-31-2005, 10:23 PM
    92135011
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    If its Canon, then it must be the Canon Cult.

    John,
    Manufacturing specific forums are great, but are not very good for a place like this forum. If we split up, there wouldnt be enough people in each forum. Especially for those who still use film. If people asked stuff in those forums, they would not likely be answered.

    If you really want a very specific question, leave that to photo.net.
    I see this forum as a laid back forum to have some fun.
  • 02-01-2005, 02:15 PM
    Photo-John
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 92135011
    If you really want a very specific question, leave that to photo.net.
    I see this forum as a laid back forum to have some fun.

    But I want to crush the competition. Can't I have it all?

    ;)
  • 02-01-2005, 03:28 PM
    Janie
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    I am of the Clannon o'Canon! ;-) Jane O'Canon here, reporting for duty!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryguyinlj
    I'm still somewhat new to these boards, but I did manage to notice a group known as the Nikon Samurai. As a longtime canon user I immediately wonder if there is such a group here for canon. So, is there? If not, should the canon users among us band together and form our own group with a catchy name?

  • 02-01-2005, 05:35 PM
    Ryguyinlj
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    hmmm.... It seems like there may be some takers. If people keep expressing intrest I'll create a poll to pick the name.

    So far I've got

    Canon Clan
    Clan de Canon
    Canon Zealot
    Canon Cult

    Anyone have any other ideas?
  • 02-01-2005, 05:51 PM
    walterick
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    Them's fightin words.

    Nikon Samurai #4
  • 02-01-2005, 08:18 PM
    Dzerzhinski46
    Sign Me Up Dude!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryguyinlj
    hmmm.... It seems like there may be some takers. If people keep expressing intrest I'll create a poll to pick the name.

    So far I've got

    Canon Clan
    Clan de Canon
    Canon Zealot
    Canon Cult

    Anyone have any other ideas?

    "Commander Canon and His Lost Planet Cameramen" :D
    Just a little suggestion. I like Janie's suggestion, Clannon O'Canon. We could all have the same last name (O'Canon), but different first names. Though I still like my suggestion Janie :p .

    Or we could really get medievel on those Nikon guys :D , and be the Chevalier de Canon (Knights of Canon). The mind just goes wild with possibilities. Let us know when/if you put up a poll. Good luck with this!

    Dzerzhinski
    (proud owner of a Canon TLb c.1975)

    P.S. We must be on to something. Rick has had the gall to post the same cheeky statement twice. We must have hit a nerve. :D :p
  • 02-01-2005, 08:44 PM
    Steph_B
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    The camera system is just a tool to allow the photographer to express her/his feeling and view of the world through still images. In that respect, Canon, Nikon, Leica, etc., ... who cares? The technology embedded in these equipments is so top notch that, at the end, you would be hard-pressed to find any definitive advantage in any of these systems.

    HOWEVER:

    If you own a Nikon system, you obviously have very good taste, and therefore, should be a skilled photographer worthy of our undivided attention.

    :D ... :D ... :D

    Just kidding! ... (well, kinda of)....

    I must admit that my heart is beating faster each time a Nikon Samurai post a thread!

    I think that friendly banter is fine as long as it says just that: friendly. I am a Nikon user because my first camera was a Nikon and I didn't want to buy a new set of lenses. I do not own anything else than Nikon, because I had only very positive experiences using their equipment. I guess this is the case for most of us (i.e., Nikon users). As time passes, we start to be emotionally attached to our camera. It IS a beautiful object after all.

    I am totally in favor for the Canon users to have their own Chapter/Secret Society/Nickname (you name it!). If anything, it will spice up a bit the forum and bring people together.

    I am, however, totally against having specific camera systems forums. It will just divide us.

    Just my own little opinion!

    Cheers,

    Steph.
  • 02-01-2005, 09:00 PM
    Trevor Ash
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    Hey! Who invited the Nikon people?

    It figures the Nikon folks would come here telling us that "equipment doesn't matter" and "they're just tools" and all that other nonsense that they tell themselves to make them feel better. It's not our fault you got stuck with Nikon junk. Don't hate the player, hate the game! If the heats too hot, get out of the kitchen! Boo-yaaa! In yo face chump!
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    (kidding! kidding! please don't take me seriously!!!!!!!!! I don't mean a thing that I typed above!)

    Edit: I have a bad feeling about this post :eek:
  • 02-01-2005, 09:08 PM
    Outdoorsman
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    If Nikon users are Samurais, then they are superior warriors who use a very specific set of ethics and a strong sense of duty in their battle. An army of them would be a terrible force, indeed.
    But...
    Canon users are NINJAS-- sleek, black-clad cat-like assassins who can move in and out with a whisper, kill with a mere touch, disappear into thin air without a trace, keepers of secret knowledge only attained through years of relentless training. We are the silent killers who move in and out before you even knew we were there. We can be invisble, soundless, perfect, ghostlike and so incredibly lethal that the mere mention of our name sends fear into the hearts of all other warriors. They concede defeat to us before we even unsheath our weapons. We are unstoppable.
    Or at least that's what the owner's manual for my Canon said...
    :D :D :D
  • 02-01-2005, 10:16 PM
    92135011
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Outdoorsman
    If Nikon users are Samurais, then they are superior warriors who use a very specific set of ethics and a strong sense of duty in their battle. An army of them would be a terrible force, indeed.
    But...
    Canon users are NINJAS-- sleek, black-clad cat-like assassins who can move in and out with a whisper, kill with a mere touch, disappear into thin air without a trace, keepers of secret knowledge only attained through years of relentless training. We are the silent killers who move in and out before you even knew we were there. We can be invisble, soundless, perfect, ghostlike and so incredibly lethal that the mere mention of our name sends fear into the hearts of all other warriors. They concede defeat to us before we even unsheath our weapons. We are unstoppable.
    Or at least that's what the owner's manual for my Canon said...
    :D :D :D

    I also believe that the Manual said that you are on Crack

    Well if we are all going to have our own respective clans, then we have to start a Leica one too. I know Tuna uses a IIIf or something. Who else?
  • 02-01-2005, 11:10 PM
    Ryguyinlj
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Outdoorsman
    If Nikon users are Samurais, then they are superior warriors who use a very specific set of ethics and a strong sense of duty in their battle. An army of them would be a terrible force, indeed.
    But...
    Canon users are NINJAS-- sleek, black-clad cat-like assassins who can move in and out with a whisper, kill with a mere touch, disappear into thin air without a trace, keepers of secret knowledge only attained through years of relentless training. We are the silent killers who move in and out before you even knew we were there. We can be invisble, soundless, perfect, ghostlike and so incredibly lethal that the mere mention of our name sends fear into the hearts of all other warriors. They concede defeat to us before we even unsheath our weapons. We are unstoppable.
    Or at least that's what the owner's manual for my Canon said...
    :D :D :D

    That was truly a quote for the ages. bravo *applause*

    Canon Ninjas, eh? It goes perfectly with the oriental/mideival/martial arts/slap in your face cool theme that the nikon users have set forth. I like it. I like it a lot. I shall add it to the list.

    Canon Clan
    Clan de Canon
    Canon Zealot
    Canon Cult
    Canon Ninja

    In fact, I think I like it the most so far.
  • 02-01-2005, 11:59 PM
    Lionheart
    Re: Canon, Nikon, and Minolta Forums?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Photo-John
    Has the time come to add manufacturer-specific forums? This is a touchy subject. Some people are very emotionally attached to a particular manufacturer. Others don't care so much, as long as it does the job. If people will really use Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Leica forums, then I'd be happy to add them. But I'd also be worried that they'd take away from the exiting forums. That's not necessarily the case. But it could happen. I'd actually like to have manufacturer-specific forums, if we can support them. But if they're going to be empty, then I'd rather not.

    Maybe the best thing to do, is if you're interested in having a Canon or Nikon club here, just get it started on your own - informally. When you can come to me and tell me that you have a bunch of participants, I'll start thinking about creating a special forum for you. Does that sound ok?

    Fred Miranda's site has Canon and Nikon specific forums that are very active, but my personal take is that such forums tend to be devisive. On the other hand, platform specific help is more readily sought and solutions found.
  • 02-02-2005, 12:04 AM
    Lionheart
    Dynastic war for the Shogunate of photography?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryguyinlj
    I'm still somewhat new to these boards, but I did manage to notice a group known as the Nikon Samurai. As a longtime canon user I immediately wonder if there is such a group here for canon. So, is there? If not, should the canon users among us band together and form our own group with a catchy name?

    This could start a centuries long war for the shogunate of photography. :p
  • 02-02-2005, 12:18 AM
    Ryguyinlj
    Re: Dynastic war for the Shogunate of photography?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lionheart
    This could start a centuries long war for the shogunate of photography. :p

    I've got news for you: the fires of this war have already been raging for a while now. The battle is on!

    (mild sarcasm)
  • 02-02-2005, 12:54 AM
    Peter_AUS
    Re: Dynastic war for the Shogunate of photography?
    Personally I think it would be a step in the wrong direction to have manufacture specific forums. One of the beauties about this website is the informality of the site, where it does matter what cameras one uses, experience is shared by many to many irrespective.

    The Nikon Samurai Club to me has always been a bit of a "Tounge in Cheek" sort of thing started by certain people that has snowballed a little recently.

    We don't need any more forums.
  • 02-02-2005, 08:37 AM
    Outdoorsman
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    Okay, since some people aren't quite getting it, for the record:

    Ryguyinlj's intent on creating this thread was not to advocate the creation of any more forums here. It was to get people to have some fun joining in on the good-natured and humorous banter that the NIkon users have engaged in by calling themselves "Samurais." The only person who put forth the idea of new brand-specific forums was Photo-John, who misunderstood Ryguyinlj's intent, and has said so, effectively ending any debate on whether there will be new forums.
    This thread is supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, but with people repeating the incorrect idea that new forums might happen, the humor just might drain from the whole thing. I would really hate to see that happen, since we're all friends here.

    Oh, and as for war between Samurais and Ninjas- it wouldn't be a battle, it would be a massacre! :D ;)
  • 02-02-2005, 10:26 AM
    paulnj
    Re: Canon, Nikon, and Minolta Forums?
    Why Fix What Is Not Broken :)
  • 02-02-2005, 10:50 AM
    paulnj
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    You can APSOLUT"(hehehe) LY count me in, as I am CANON BIRDNERD #1 already.

    BIRDNERDs DON'T need to carry even a SLR, but just enjoy nature/ birds in general.

    As for those NIKON people... HAAAA I own a sweet set of them too :)

    SMART PEOPLE don't need A BRAND to latch onto ;)


    I already unofficial came up with a canon club name( out of humor ofcourse), but VOTE away and I will be in like flynn ;)

    " Re: Pics with A new toy

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by another view
    Natalie, you're not the only Nikon Samurai who owns a Canon...

    Nice work!
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Nor are you the only CANON MERCENARY with a NIKON
    __________________
    A once NIKON SOMETHINGOROTHER

    CANON BIRD NERD #1 "
  • 02-02-2005, 12:18 PM
    Ryguyinlj
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Outdoorsman
    Okay, since some people aren't quite getting it, for the record:

    Ryguyinlj's intent on creating this thread was not to advocate the creation of any more forums here. It was to get people to have some fun joining in on the good-natured and humorous banter that the NIkon users have engaged in by calling themselves "Samurais."

    Yes. Exactly.

    It's all good humored. It's not as if I dislike Nikon or any other brand, I just like to have some pride in my tools and maybe have some fun with it at the same time.

    and no, I never mentioned creating specific forums. I learn a lot on these boards from people all over the world that use all types of gear. I would be shutting myself off from learning from their tecniques and perspectives if I were to only mingle with people that use similar gear that I do.
  • 02-02-2005, 12:28 PM
    Laberin
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    well this is an interesting thread:) but what about minolta?im sure there are alot of minolta folks out there.and should we stick with the asian/mideveil theme?or branch out to other idea's? and also i think the names should have an association with the camera,ie:Nikon-a pristegious weapon (if you will)and the weilder's have a set code of ethics.(woo! this is fun)

    so we have.

    Nikon-Samurais
    Cannon- Ninja's (possibly)
    Minolta-
    Leicia-

    please let all the idea's flow
  • 02-02-2005, 02:58 PM
    SmartWombat
    Re: Nikon Samurai??? Where's the clan for Canon?
    It is nice to belong, and I thought I belonged to the grup of users here on the forums, not to a particular clan.


    I think separate areas for manufacturers might be divisive, if you want the "my hammer's better than yours" attitude there are plenty of single make forums elsewhere.

    Having said that, while the NIkon Samurai definitely have a presence, the rest of us outnumber them :)
  • 02-02-2005, 04:40 PM
    Asylum Steve
    Canon Cannibals???...
    Ok, maybe that's a bit over the top... :D

    Commandos is fine with me... :cool:
  • 02-02-2005, 04:58 PM
    Liz
    Just to Add to the Confusion

    Canon Rules
    The Canon Rebels


    I think a pole is a great way to decide.

    Liz



    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryguyinlj
    hmmm.... It seems like there may be some takers. If people keep expressing intrest I'll create a poll to pick the name.

    So far I've got

    Canon Clan
    Clan de Canon
    Canon Zealot
    Canon Cult

    Anyone have any other ideas?

  • 02-02-2005, 05:06 PM
    Liz
    Check This Out!
    America has made a choice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://forums.photographyreview.com/...ead.php?t=8755

    I think us Canon people NEED to brag a little - take note all you Samurais! :p

    I just couldn't resist!

    Liz

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryguyinlj
    I'm still somewhat new to these boards, but I did manage to notice a group known as the Nikon Samurai. As a longtime canon user I immediately wonder if there is such a group here for canon. So, is there? If not, should the canon users among us band together and form our own group with a catchy name?