Is my camera obsolete already?

[Hawkeye]

I bought a Canon Rebel Ti this spring and it took me almost a year to earn the money. Now i find out that Canon is making the Rebel T2. Will this make my Ti obsolete? Is it meant as a replacement or as just another Rebel model?

[another view]

New cameras come out all the time. Trying to keep up with the latest stuff is next to impossible. It's also not necessary. Most people wouldn't buy it just because it's a new model, but maybe it has a feature you could really use or you've worn it out and it's time for a replacement (rarely, maybe photojournalists). A lot of stuff in my camera bag is last year's model, etc - but still works well.

[Trevor Ash]

I bought a Canon Rebel Ti this spring and it took me almost a year to earn the money. Now i find out that Canon is making the Rebel T2. Will this make my Ti obsolete? Is it meant as a replacement or as just another Rebel model?

Yes, your camera is now essentially useless.

And if you've made it past my cruel sarcasm I hope you can look to yourself and see why I would post such a remark.

[Asylum Steve]

Steve's right. Camera manufacturers are trying to be like American auto makers; they want us to think we need a new model every year... ;)

Besides , OBSOLETE is a very strong word. I'm sure the T2 is only a mild upgrade from what you have.

Look at it this way: someone who knows what they're doing with a Ti will surely take better pictures than some one who DOESN'T using a T2...

I bought a Canon Rebel Ti this spring and it took me almost a year to earn the money. Now i find out that Canon is making the Rebel T2. Will this make my Ti obsolete? Is it meant as a replacement or as just another Rebel model?

[Todd Patten]

However, can you imaging being a Nikon D100 owner? You shell out all that cash and Nikon comes out with the D70 -- widely seen as better than the D100 at half the price?!?

[FadderUri]

I bought a Canon Rebel Ti this spring and it took me almost a year to earn the money. Now i find out that Canon is making the Rebel T2. Will this make my Ti obsolete? Is it meant as a replacement or as just another Rebel model?

Your Ti is not obsolete... if it is, then I'm *REALLY* in trouble. I'm shooting with a 20+ yr old Canon AE-1. An old camera is no more obsolete than an old guitar... does a '57 Fender Stratocaster sound like it's obsolete just because it's 45 + years old? Not if it has been taken care of. If you take care of your equipment, it will last you a long time. The possible exception to that rule is digitals. The digi-cam I bought three years ago that I thought had "decent" pictures now looks like a something picked up from the reject bin. Digitals keep getting higher and higher resolution, which doesn't really mean much if you're shooting for the web, but they've still got a ways to go before they fully catch up with film. Until they do, they will be considered obsolete as newer models come out.

Just my .02

[another view]

An old camera is no more obsolete than an old guitar... does a '57 Fender Stratocaster sound like it's obsolete just because it's 45 + years old?

'57 Strat?? I'll buy that shiny new Canon and trade you for it!

[another view]

However, can you imaging being a Nikon D100 owner? You shell out all that cash and Nikon comes out with the D70 -- widely seen as better than the D100 at half the price?!?

True. This situation is worse with digital, the cameras come out faster and the price of admission is higher... I'm sticking with what I've got even some day when Fuji gets around to releasing the S3 we've been hearing about for months. At that point, my S2 will technically be obselete but no less capable than it is today. I'll buy another DSLR when I need a second body.

[opus]

I am extremely happy with my Ti and can't imagine why I'd need to replace it.

[gahspidy]

Don't worry yourself about new models coming out. As another stated, someone with an older model who has skill and knows what he is doing, will take a better picture any day than the guy with the newer model who isn't so good. Your camera is quite capable. . .the balls in your hands now. Get to it!

[gahspidy]

btw. . . Ansel Adams, who even by todays standards is considered one of the greatest. . . shot his work with equipment over 50 years old!

[Speed]

New cameras come out all the time. Trying to keep up with the latest stuff is next to impossible. It's also not necessary. Most people wouldn't buy it just because it's a new model, but maybe it has a feature you could really use or you've worn it out and it's time for a replacement (rarely, maybe photojournalists). A lot of stuff in my camera bag is last year's model, etc - but still works well.

Obsolete?

Naw!

Outdated would be a better word. But if it does what you want, who cares if there's a newer model out? When I bought a manual camera, I bought a K1000. Definitely outdated - they were discontinued years ago! But it does what I want, which is why I bought it.

Learn to use your camera to it's maximum potential, and if you ever need more camera (features, that is) then upgrade. Until then, don't waste a second thinking about it.

My two cents worth.

[Speed]

Yes, your camera is now essentially useless.

And if you've made it past my cruel sarcasm I hope you can look to yourself and see why I would post such a remark.

Hehehehe!

Trevor, I love your sense of the rediculous!

LOL!

[Speed]

Steve's right. Camera manufacturers are trying to be like American auto makers; they want us to think we need a new model every year... ;)

Besides , OBSOLETE is a very strong word. I'm sure the T2 is only a mild upgrade from what you have.

Look at it this way: someone who knows what they're doing with a Ti will surely take better pictures than some one who DOESN'T using a T2...

"someone who knows what they're doing with a Ti will surely take better pictures than some one who DOESN'T using a T2... "

Bingo! Learn to use what you've got and make the best of it. It really is the person behind the camera that makes a difference! Look at how many glamour photog's still use manual camera's. They know their gear, and what it can do, so they stick with it.

I have a N80. It is a very capable camera, and I love it. I WANT a F5. I don't need it, I want it. I won't take better photo's because I have an F5, I'll take better photo's as my skill's improve, regardless of what camera I'm using.

[Lionheart]

As long as there is film available for it and the camera can still take pictures, it is never obsolete. I still have 2 canon AE-1's and one A-1 body, and a few lenses for it. I will occasionally take them out for a spin just for fun. The feel and sound of the mechanics of a film camera is sadly missing from the digicams, so I feel a need occasionally to shoot film.

[Speed]

However, can you imaging being a Nikon D100 owner? You shell out all that cash and Nikon comes out with the D70 -- widely seen as better than the D100 at half the price?!?

Hehehe. Those are the breaks. The D100 was, and still is, a fine camera. But from what I've read, the D70 is superior in most aspects. In fact, one article I read stated that "while Nikon wasn't advertising the D70 as a replacement for the D100, it essentially was."

Hey, the D70 is the first digital camera I've considered buying. :-O

Yeah, yeah, I'm an old film guy.

[schrackman]

I bought my daughter the Ti just a few months ago and am quite impressed with the pictures that she's been taking. I'll try to scan one tonight and post it on this thread. You've got a good little camera there, no need to upgrade until you can afford it or plan to do use it more professionally.

Ray

[FadderUri]

'57 Strat?? I'll buy that shiny new Canon and trade you for it!

Ahhhh, if only. I've got three guitars, and the three of 'em together ain't worth as much as an old strat.

Fadder Uri

[Outdoorsman]

I think it's really interesting that the resolution of the P&S digis is climbing all the time and getting more affordable all the time, but still the image quality isn't improving like one might expect. Can you say cheap lens? I knew you could!
These little tiny machines are spitting out nice big files at 4 MP but with average resolution due to average optics. It's really sad that my ancient all-manual Vivitar 220/SL still takes sharper pics than some of these little digitals. And I still love my old EOS 650- I only bought the Elan 7N because A) it has a few more features that I need, like AEB and FEC (I could do without all the idiot modes, tho) and B) it's much much quieter. However, the spot metering is way more precise on the 650. And the viewfinder is brighter. And the grip is more comfortable. In fact, I think I might just haul that ol' thing out today... and clean the oily shutter....

[Steph_B]

Hehehe. Those are the breaks. The D100 was, and still is, a fine camera. But from what I've read, the D70 is superior in most aspects. In fact, one article I read stated that "while Nikon wasn't advertising the D70 as a replacement for the D100, it essentially was."

Hey, the D70 is the first digital camera I've considered buying. :-O

Yeah, yeah, I'm an old film guy.

Me too! I am looking at the D70 as a serious replacement for my F100. But at 6 Mpix, I am not quite sure that a large print can rival prints from scanned Velvia.

Here is a 'mystery' that has always bugged me:
6 Mpix resolution
1 pixel should be at least 8 bit color resolution in RGB (I think Nikon mentions something about 12 bits?)

Total: In my book you should get a file size of roughly 18 MB.

However, the maximum file size from the D70 is only slightly less than 6 MB (the digital guy at my local store says that the NEF is a compressed format, which should explain the difference. ... 'a LOSSLESS compression', he added!

Ha Ha Ha! While lossless compression is possible, you cannot guarantee to have ALWAYS the same file size! It all depends on the complexity of the file (in this case picture). Take a .zip for instance. Does wonder on my Word files, but totally sucks in compressing JPEG: because JPEG have already high complexity....

Nevertheless, I have been very impressed by some of the posts here with a D70... I am sure that there is a reasonable explanation ot this! As an engineer I will not buy any new tech. without understanding the basic concepts behing it. Call me old school!

PS: Nikon has recently announced the arrival of the D2X for professionals with a >12 Mpix resolution....(call 911, I'm hyperventilating!) I seriously think this will be the first digital Nikon SLR that will be able to rival the Film in terms of resolution and dynamic range. I am looking forward to try out this baby... I am NOT looking forward to the price though!

After Canon's 1D, Nikon was sooo overdue!

Cheers,

Steph.

[another view]

But at 6 Mpix, I am not quite sure that a large print can rival prints from scanned Velvia.

You should see some of the big prints from my 6mp Fuji S2 - shot as jpeg - they rival medium format...

[Steph_B]

You should see some of the big prints from my 6mp Fuji S2 - shot as jpeg - they rival medium format...

You know what? I should definitely rent a DSLR and have a got at it! Thanks for the info!

Cheers,

Steph.

[schrackman]

I bought my daughter the Ti just a few months ago and am quite impressed with the pictures that she's been taking. I'll try to scan one tonight and post it on this thread. You've got a good little camera there, no need to upgrade until you can afford it or plan to do use it more professionally.

Ray

Didn't get a chance till tonight to scan that photo. This was shot by my daughter Melanie up in Shasta lake using her rebel ti in program mode. This reminds me of that song, "Fish heads, fish heads, rollypoly fish heads".

Ray