Thanks guys.

The ugly setup isn't a major concern of mine, its an extra device that attaches a speed lite to something a speed ring can mount to, then you attach the softbox with the speed ring. Its a lot bigger, but yeah, that isn't a major detraction to me, the only reason it is even mentioned is that I primarily use it for portraits and so I make it very portable. But, with that speed ring set up its abotu 4 times as much, and I just cant justify that expense right now - I could almost get another flash with that. I was wanting the rectangular shape but from all I've seen 24x24 is as large as it gets for a shoe-mount flash setup, without the extra speed-ring stuff. Its also one of those fold-out things that pops open, its pretty nifty.

Do you use any 24x24 softboxes John? Do you see a major differene between them and larger ones?