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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    I'm sorry, I don't understand. Are those your photos? Are you looking for feedback on them?
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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    I think your being a little too hard on yourself. Why do you believe these are such a failure?
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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    I agree with my friends. Considering that these were taken at night, I think the stop-action is awesome! The images are good, and professionally displayed. You did a great job, I say!
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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    Yeah, they don't seem so bad to me either, but I guess it depends on what you were after. Did you hope for a different look or outcome? What do you consider to be the failure?

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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    thanks guys
    I may be to hard some times
    Im just trying to get better
    Light was a killer
    but I see others who shoot in caves
    and they are great
    way better than mine

    I do appreciate the kind words
    I have never had the big head

    C and C is cool

    I wish I could post them
    1. Im an idiot
    2. my internet is slower than me
    3. more of number 1 than number 2

    again thanks for your time
    I know its valuable

    Ill try to do better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medley View Post
    I agree with my friends. Considering that these were taken at night, I think the stop-action is awesome! The images are good, and professionally displayed. You did a great job, I say!
    thanks Medley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Timer View Post
    I think your being a little too hard on yourself. Why do you believe these are such a failure?

    biggest thing I think is sharpness
    It might be me and focal point
    I use center point almost exclusively
    even the stuff thats still doesnt seem sharp to me
    I dont know
    I just see a lot better stuff
    Thanks OT
    your opinion means a lot
    I know you know your stuff
    as do many on here
    Im just trying to join the ranks as decent

    Thanks again everyone
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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    Burnet44,

    There’s no way that I’m going to critique 249 photos, but I did take a look at the first 24, which is a lot more than I would normally care to review.

    In my opinion, the first thing you need to do is trash all of the lousy shots which greatly outnumber the good stuff. Most of these images I would never offer for sale. When I shoot a sports event I trash well over half of the images I shoot. Most I trash on the spot, and I trash a lot of what I end up bringing home. So trash all of the junk and save only the good stuff, even if it’s only a small percentage of the shots you take.

    Of the first 24 shots the only obvious keepers are #15 and 21. I might also keep #12. The rest I would trash. The remaining photos fail for a variety of reasons: OOF, subject too far away, static subject, ball not visible, under-exposure, distracting background, subject’s face not visible, poor composition, severed limbs, etc.

    Don’t expect viewers to wade through dozens of photos to give critiques. That’s way too much. I suggest ten maximum. You’ll probably get better responses if you post the photos here instead of providing a link to another website. Please be specific about what sort of feedback you are seeking. In this case we had to assume that you were looking for a response to some sort of “epic failure” without knowing what you considered to be “epic failure.”

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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    That's a good point, and one I wish I'd thought of. Don't treat every frame as a keeper, a potential sale.

    They're not.

    Cleaning up the selection may cut a player or two out of the selections if they weren't in any of the others, but that's actually not very likely. It will also improve the selection and keep an audience more likely to continue perusing. If they only see 2 OK shots out of the first two pages, they're going to move on to something else.

    Even as a hobbyist I don't keep a quarter of what I shoot, and I only post about a quarter of those in my on-line albums for others to see, to "show off," if you will. Everybody throws frames away, nobody keeps everything they shoot. Nobody's "good enough" to do that.

    And tossing is a lot cheaper than it was with film!!!!!

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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    I tossed 300 lol
    thanks again
    you guys are helping me
    I appreciate it
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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob32 View Post
    Burnet44,

    There’s no way that I’m going to critique 249 photos, but I did take a look at the first 24, which is a lot more than I would normally care to review.

    In my opinion, the first thing you need to do is trash all of the lousy shots which greatly outnumber the good stuff. Most of these images I would never offer for sale. When I shoot a sports event I trash well over half of the images I shoot. Most I trash on the spot, and I trash a lot of what I end up bringing home. So trash all of the junk and save only the good stuff, even if it’s only a small percentage of the shots you take.

    Of the first 24 shots the only obvious keepers are #15 and 21. I might also keep #12. The rest I would trash. The remaining photos fail for a variety of reasons: OOF, subject too far away, static subject, ball not visible, under-exposure, distracting background, subject’s face not visible, poor composition, severed limbs, etc.

    Don’t expect viewers to wade through dozens of photos to give critiques. That’s way too much. I suggest ten maximum. You’ll probably get better responses if you post the photos here instead of providing a link to another website. Please be specific about what sort of feedback you are seeking. In this case we had to assume that you were looking for a response to some sort of “epic failure” without knowing what you considered to be “epic failure.”

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    Many of the shots have exposure issues, focus issues, WB issues, crooked horizons and just don't have any action ( seem like random shots). I have to agree with Bob. There are very few that I would be showing for sale and I went through about 100 shots. You may need to change your strategy in these night games. It may be helpful to look at some photographers' websites to see the quality and composition they display.

    Sorry, just trying to be honest.
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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    No thanks I appreciate it
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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    No thanks I appreciate it
    never be sorry for honesty
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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    4. Your points are great and I really appreciate it. Ive been trying to hit the chest on focus since its a bigger target. When I shoot for the head I miss a lot. Ill try to do better. I know DOF is hard with 2.8 and doesnt give me much room?
    Im trying to digest all that people tell me. Some said open it up and let er rip, some say too much grain so I dialed it down to 1000 instead of 3200 some said 1/500 or better so I did that and got black cats in a closet.
    sometimes it hard to know what to do with all these opinions which I appreciate greatly, different gyms, different lighting, my stupidity aka lost of different ever changing factors.

    I may be wrong but I think I do know the game and know the action maybe not IDK

    Its the technical camera stuff Im trying to get a handle on

    I cant tell ya how much I appreciate your write up
    I know it took time which is valuable to everyone
    thanks again

    Im trying to go to the central texas night shoot Sat around 4
    Im sure I can learn more then from real photo guys
    not slappys like me

    thanks so much again
    You guys and gals have been great to a newbie
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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    More than anything, I think the cropping is the biggest deal with those photos. It's not really a vertical sport like basketball so horizontal shots aren't bad.. your crops are cutting off players and/or leaving way too much dead space above and below.

    I had do a bunch of newspaper work last summer shooting girls softball at night.. was interesting shooting softball at 1/400 and 1/500 when I prefer to shoot baseball/softball at 1/1500 or 1/2000 whenever possible. Some of the girls swing so hard the bat "disappeared" in the photo!
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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    Quote Originally Posted by DHMN69 View Post
    More than anything, I think the cropping is the biggest deal with those photos. It's not really a vertical sport like basketball so horizontal shots aren't bad.. your crops are cutting off players and/or leaving way too much dead space above and below.

    I had do a bunch of newspaper work last summer shooting girls softball at night.. was interesting shooting softball at 1/400 and 1/500 when I prefer to shoot baseball/softball at 1/1500 or 1/2000 whenever possible. Some of the girls swing so hard the bat "disappeared" in the photo!
    I agree. Horizon work, perspective, cropping. 114 is a pretty cool shot. Some minor flaws, but a great capture of an angle and moment that even those viewing the game would not see.
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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    thanks guys
    all replies noted for hopefully better pics
    thanks for your time

    I posted mart vs Wortham basketball pics
    way better lighting
    maybe they were better
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    Re: Epic Fail at Softball pics

    thanks guys
    all replies noted for hopefully better pics
    thanks for your time

    I posted mart vs Wortham basketball pics
    way better lighting
    maybe they were better
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