More 'hints' from Sony...

[OldClicker]

Why can't Sony put live view in the viewfinder? Are there any cameras out there with Live View in the viewfinder? IIRC, Olympus allows the live view to work on the LCD without disabling the viewfinder, but that's not what I want. I want Live View to work in real time in the viewfinder when I shoot, so I don't have to switch back and forth to the LCD to get a preview. I never use the LCD, its almost worthless to me. Since I mostly shoot outdoors in sunny fast action sports events, there is usually to much glare and not enough time to fiddle with it. I need Live View in the viewfinder. There much be a way to do this, from an engineering standpoint?

BBR

Don't understand. You just mean an electronic view finder rather than optical? - TF

[BBRoberts]

I don't really care, as long as what I am seeing is reasonable. What I see through the Viewfinder is what I want my photos to look like, its that simple to me. Why can't they incorporate live view in such a way that allows you to make adjustments to setting based on what I see through the viewfinder? It must be possible to do this in time, I would think. LCD to me is a joke, and others have said Live View is also worthless to them as well on Sony.

BBR

[OldClicker]

I don't really care, as long as what I am seeing is reasonable. What I see through the Viewfinder is what I want my photos to look like, its that simple to me. Why can't they incorporate live view in such a way that allows you to make adjustments to setting based on what I see through the viewfinder? It must be possible to do this in time, I would think. LCD to me is a joke, and others have said Live View is also worthless to them as well on Sony.

BBR

First, that's NOT what most want from a viewfinder.

I'm not familiar with point-&-shoot cameras with EVFs. There probably are some where the EVF shows the same thing as the LCD???? Try asking this question in the Digital Cameras - General forum.

How about this as a solution:

http://hoodmanusa.com/products.asp?dept=1017

You can strap it right on to the back of the LCD and use it like a view finder.

http://hoodmanusa.com/prodinfo.asp?number=H%2DLPP3CS

TF

[BBRoberts]

This is what Olympus did with the 330, but if I am reading this correctly, it doesn't mean Live View is incorporated into the viewfinder. I believe what they are doing/saying is that the LCD Live View works at the same time without switching, but seperately. If that's the case, to me, that's half a fix. Better then Sony, but still inadequate in what I want.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse330/

On the H9 for instance, all the setting can be brought up in the viewfinder including grids, Histogram, etc. My point is with the H9, you use the Historgram to judge your settings, but no live view. After you bring up a photo on the LCD, you can judge what the effects are, but that's a non starter in todays bleeding edge. I pretty sure, a lot of people would like Live View in the viewfinder if its incorporated well. For those who use the viewfinder the most, who wouldn't want to adjust their setting all in one place, without having to switch back and forth to the LCD.

During sunny outdoor days with action sports, the LCD has always been a joke to me. I can hardly see anything with all the glare. I don't even try, but the viewfinder is my salvation. I wouldn't buy a camera that only has an LCD display. If live view was incorporated into the viewfinder, then kind of like WYSIWYG, which saves time and effort.

When the sun goes in and out of the clouds, then live view would tip you off through the viewfinder instead of using that uselss LCD. I don't even like having that thing sticking out. Probably get whacked on something.

I suppose Sony always has new irons in the fire.

BBR

[OldClicker]

This is what Olympus did with the 330, but if I am reading this correctly, it doesn't mean Live View is incorporated into the viewfinder. I believe what they are doing/saying is that the LCD Live View works at the same time without switching, but seperately. If that's the case, to me, that's half a fix. Better then Sony, but still inadequate in what I want.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse330/

On the H9 for instance, all the setting can be brought up in the viewfinder including grids, Histogram, etc. My point is with the H9, you use the Historgram to judge your settings, but no live view. After you bring up a photo on the LCD, you can judge what the effects are, but that's a non starter in todays bleeding edge. I pretty sure, a lot of people would like Live View in the viewfinder if its incorporated well. For those who use the viewfinder the most, who wouldn't want to adjust their setting all in one place, without having to switch back and forth to the LCD.

During sunny outdoor days with action sports, the LCD has always been a joke to me. I can hardly see anything with all the glare. I don't even try, but the viewfinder is my salvation. I wouldn't buy a camera that only has an LCD display. If live view was incorporated into the viewfinder, then kind of like WYSIWYG, which saves time and effort.

When the sun goes in and out of the clouds, then live view would tip you off through the viewfinder instead of using that uselss LCD. I don't even like having that thing sticking out. Probably get whacked on something.

I suppose Sony always has new irons in the fire.

BBR

The hoodloupe sounds like exactly the functionality you are looking for. $80 and your in. - TF

[BBRoberts]

I don't really care, as long as what I am seeing is reasonable. What I see through the Viewfinder is what I want my photos to look like, its that simple to me. Why can't they incorporate live view in such a way that allows you to make adjustments to setting based on what I see through the viewfinder? It must be possible to do this in time, I would think. LCD to me is a joke, and others have said Live View is also worthless to them as well on Sony.

BBR