Hi Warren, your a man of your word, thanks for all of this, I ended up buying some books as well for nighttime reading, but I guess it will take me a year before I can come close to managing this. Be sure I will be practicing. When I have something I'm comfortable to share, I'll be sure to let you know. Thanks for the education. Shootme. PS: Now I wish I did have the boatwright and refinishing skills, but sadly my background is finance & strategy, M&A stuff, reorganisation, building structures and processes, analytics, that sort of thing. Alas when we finally make it to OZ be sure I'll come look you up for a weekend of photography.fficeffice" />>>