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natatbeach Is a good photo JUST in a... 10-21-2004, 04:40 PM
Trevor Ash Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 10-21-2004, 06:17 PM
Asylum Steve IMO, a perfect photo... 10-21-2004, 06:46 PM
natatbeach Re: IMO, a perfect photo... 10-21-2004, 08:45 PM
opus Re: IMO, a perfect photo... 10-21-2004, 09:06 PM
natatbeach Re: IMO, a perfect photo... 10-22-2004, 05:01 AM
adina I love it! 10-22-2004, 06:23 AM
Asylum Steve Gotcha... 10-21-2004, 10:11 PM
natatbeach Re: Gotcha... 10-22-2004, 04:59 AM
walterick Well I for one 11-09-2004, 06:37 PM
Asylum Steve I have news for you Rick... 11-10-2004, 09:48 AM
megan Re: I have news for you... 11-14-2004, 06:22 PM
almo Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 10-21-2004, 09:21 PM
almo Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 10-21-2004, 10:23 PM
natatbeach Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 10-22-2004, 05:00 AM
almo Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 10-22-2004, 07:48 AM
darkman I'm not going to focus on... 10-22-2004, 07:15 AM
Asylum Steve Excellent points, Mike... 10-22-2004, 07:52 AM
Irakly Shanidze Re: Excellent points, Mike... 10-22-2004, 08:50 AM
Elysian Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 10-23-2004, 10:32 AM
almo Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 10-23-2004, 10:43 AM
Asylum Steve True, but he's right... 10-23-2004, 11:42 AM
Irakly Shanidze Re: True, but he's right... 10-25-2004, 07:37 AM
natatbeach interesting viewpoints so far 10-26-2004, 01:47 PM
Asylum Steve Well, nat, one problem... 10-26-2004, 04:41 PM
natatbeach sounds like a plan 10-26-2004, 06:54 PM
Asylum Steve Well then, at least... 10-27-2004, 07:44 AM
racingpinarello Re: Well then, at least... 10-27-2004, 12:35 PM
walterick Wow. 11-09-2004, 06:45 PM
Sebastian Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 11-10-2004, 09:03 AM
darkman Re: interesting viewpoints so... 10-26-2004, 07:20 PM
darkman Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 10-25-2004, 10:41 AM
Trevor Ash The thing about innovation 10-25-2004, 11:39 AM
darkman Re: The thing about innovation 10-25-2004, 04:23 PM
Trevor Ash Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 10-25-2004, 11:43 AM
megan Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 10-26-2004, 03:36 PM
Asylum Steve Yes, seperate, but with much... 10-26-2004, 04:19 PM
darkman Re: Yes, seperate, but with... 10-26-2004, 04:25 PM
Asylum Steve Well, the thing is... 10-26-2004, 05:02 PM
darkman Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 10-26-2004, 04:20 PM
midtrans Re: Is a good photo JUST in a... 04-05-2018, 08:49 PM
Speed seems whacked to me... :) 10-26-2004, 02:20 PM
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    interesting viewpoints so far

    Quote Originally Posted by Asylum Steve

    If someone doesn't "get it", well, that's it. They just don't get it...
    I'm one of THOSE people...i really don't get most of the attempts in the fashion industry that are like that cover of Nicole kidman with her whacked hair and bad make up...but I enjoy the vision and the energy that goes into it and frankly they are so absurd in their styling efforts that I continue to look and learn in the off chance I will somehow in some way "get it"

    I guess I am more interested in the psychology behind the efforts than the actual end result.
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    I wasn't trying to change society, or to be ahead of my time.
    I didn't think of myself as liberated, and I don't believe that I did anything important.
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    Well, nat, one problem...

    ...is that American fashion mags, especially their covers, are know for being extremely boring and mainstream (not to mention uptight when it comes to things like sex and eroticism).

    The great irony of the fashion industry is that the most exciting and inovative fashion photography is almost always done abroad, yet almost all foreign shooters dream of being able to shoot boring covers (and the money it leads to) for AMERICAN MAGAZINES...

    And the standard protocol for rising or beginning American models and shooters is to first work in Europe, then when they're good enough come back here and star in the US mags.

    You want something that knocks your socks off? Don't subscribe to W. Instead try Italian or French Vogue ... ;)
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    sounds like a plan

    You want something that knocks your socks off? Don't subscribe to W. Instead try Italian or French Vogue ...

    if I could crap away...$308.45 for 12 issues of each...LOL

    maybe next year---yeah...maybe next year. ;)

    I'll try and be content to look at these...http://www.temple.edu/photo/photogra...eisel/SMIV.htm
    "I was not trying to be shocking, or to be a pioneer.
    I wasn't trying to change society, or to be ahead of my time.
    I didn't think of myself as liberated, and I don't believe that I did anything important.
    I was just myself. I didn't know any other way to be, or any other way to live."
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    Well then, at least...

    ...pick up a copy at a good magazine stand. A single issue of Italian, British, or French Vogue should go for the bargain basement price of about $10-$15...

    BTW, I don't include Spanish Vogue in this group. It's not bad, but for some reason not up to par with the other three...
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    Re: Well then, at least...

    Quote Originally Posted by Asylum Steve
    ...pick up a copy at a good magazine stand. A single issue of Italian, British, or French Vogue should go for the bargain basement price of about $10-$15...

    BTW, I don't include Spanish Vogue in this group. It's not bad, but for some reason not up to par with the other three...
    I agree, and it just takes some time at Barnes and Noble to get a free look at the magazines. Vogue is a great visual aid, and the European mags have a much wider visual range to them, as Steve mentioned.

    I probably spend two-three hours a week at bookstore looking at magazines for ideals.

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    Wow.

    Now that's photography!

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    Re: Is a good photo JUST in a name/or reputation

    I just don't get it, I think it's an excellent shot, and would have said so, no matter who took it.
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    Re: interesting viewpoints so far

    Quote Originally Posted by natatbeach
    I'm one of THOSE people...i really don't get most of the attempts in the fashion industry that are like that cover of Nicole kidman with her whacked hair and bad make up...but I enjoy the vision and the energy that goes into it and frankly they are so absurd in their styling efforts that I continue to look and learn in the off chance I will somehow in some way "get it"

    I guess I am more interested in the psychology behind the efforts than the actual end result.
    I feel the same about many forms of photography. For example, some of the fine art that appears to me like a shot you and I would take on a vacation. It's not that the shots are bad. In fact, they're great shots! It's more like why is this considered fine art?

    I don't get that!

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