Well, actually, I made my post before I realized there was more than one page to this thread.
I find the debate somewhat interesting. I also have had enough experience,(education?) on other forums and boards to know that it matters not how profound your reasoning is, nor how sound your facts; you won't change the opinion of anyone who has already formed their personal opinion and have an emotional desire to be correct and to make sure others will see the value of their wisdom and see the light and never admit that someone elses opinion is as good as your own.
Me, I'm just going to shoot the best photographs I can with my limited ability, experience, and equipment.
I will keep following this thread, though.

Peace all.