All right, I like these two, I took them today, it was foggy and overcast, so it was good for really slow speeds for action stuff. I took mostly panning, and some tripod motion blur ones. I just got a crappy little 6 inch tripod, it doesnt really hold my camera well, but it stops the shake nicely if I hold it a little. For the first one, I wish I had had my big flash, so I could have gotten him a little clearer, but it probably would be too bright anyway. In the motion blur one, I know it would be sweet with flash, but I dont have rear flash sync, so it would just look like he was going backwards. i just chose to shoot it fully blurry. I like it. Tell me what you think.