greg- a frontal attack was alittle harder to do its a extra parking lot that is fenced in with good amount of security,and this casino runs almost 24 hours of the day and would really be hard pressed not to get cars parked in the front,and i would like to shoot raw,but currently have no program to convert it later,but thanks for the advise i'll take that into consideration on the next project.

Mb1- i think my main purpose was just to grab a very clear image at a late night setting,and being very cold out,i tried with my point and shoot camera and being limited to the f/stops, i returned with my nikon, as for late, you can clearly see the time on the tower that says 12:45 am, i would consider that quite late myself,thanks for the comments.