the PSing sucked---it was VERY quick... and I have a lot to learn and looking back oyu are right way ROUGH
I tried again in a repost---and I appreciate your honesty---I see what a lot of people see and when I try to ignore it it just gets put back in front of me to deal with---I should not underestimate how keen an eye other have on here ;)
thnaks again for your thoughts and I will store into the "things I've learned to look for folder" in my brain