A cold and desolate place..

[trog100]

taken last thursday at the top of the snake pass in derbyshire UK..








trog

[EOSThree]

Number 2 is the strongest image. I like that you cropped the piece of wood and construction cone out of the frame. In number 1 the road to the left, the chunk of wood or box and the cone all serve as distractions for me. They may add a little in the way of presenting the loneliness, or abandonment of the place, but over all they are distractions to me. Over all this looks very cold and blustery, looks like Wyoming does in a winter storm.

[Mr Yuck]

A tracker with a roof carrier in the snow, now that's courage

I like 1 and 2 but kinda wish there was just 1 piece of debris in frame, not a whole lot can be done about that though.

#3 is cool, no pun intended. You may want to crop out the cones and trailer and just make this an Izuzu in snow shot, but if you were to do that, I'd go with a wider shot so you have more room in front of the car.

[trog100]

its a mitsibushy short wheel base pajero.. not that many got to the US those that did would have had a montero name tag on em.. they are called shoguns in the UK.. that one is japanese import..

i tried to present the cold desolation (abandonment) of the place with the little sequence i posted..

they are full frame shots i have about sixty of them.. all done done differently..

an example of one with a more "artistic" intend or a desperate attempt at clawing something from none existent subject matter.. he he



trog

[Ronnoco]

Is that the lens you used, or why does the horizon seem to bend in different directions?

Ronnoco

[trog100]

its on top of a hill.. nothing is flat and u can see other hills in the distance kinda merging with the first hill..

the lens is a tamron 18 x 200mm.. it has some barrel distortion at its widest end but not quite that bad.. he he

trog

ps.. the digital 1.5 crop make the lens a 28 x 300.. 35mm film equivalent.. the camera did a better job than i expected in such poor lighting conditions.. the traffic cone image isnt a crop just the lens at its 200mm end..

[Frog]

Not an expert here but I think the cold and desolation would be better portrayed by focusing on something small with the bigger background behind. Perhaps one of the bushes or plants.
Thanks for sharing.

[Greg McCary]

Composition wise I like #2. It looks cold and desolate. I like #2 because you do have a little bit of foreground and the fence in the distance to give it some depth.
Greg

[Ronnoco]

its on top of a hill.. nothing is flat and u can see other hills in the distance kinda merging with the first hill..

the lens is a tamron 18 x 200mm.. it has some barrel distortion at its widest end but not quite that bad.. he he

trog

ps.. the digital 1.5 crop make the lens a 28 x 300.. 35mm film equivalent.. the camera did a better job than i expected in such poor lighting conditions.. the traffic cone image isnt a crop just the lens at its 200mm end..

Just in the nature of F.Y. I. , I assume you realize that barrel distortion and other curve problems can be corrected in Photoshop or PaintShop Pro.

Ronnoco

[trog100]

yes.. i but whatever u see in the presented images isnt barrel distortion.. its reality.. the world isnt entirely made of flat level horizons..

the point of number one image.. rubbish and abandonment.. i think it shows that..

the point of number two image.. an attempt to not show the rubbish and distractions.. simply to produce a nicer than reality looking image..

the point of number three image.. just to show the nature of the scene.. something of interest along the road side that was worth stopping for and taking pictures of....

i selected three out of many to depict the scene.. not to present as individual works of art.. something they are quite cleary not..

i could for example have used this one to add to the abandonment factor..



the critique should be about whether or not i have successfully captured the feeling of the place.. or at least i think it should.. not about how perfect or imperfect each image is or what is the best out of the three..

of course if my thinking is wrong feel free to tell me.. i wont mind..

trog

[Greg McCary]

I agree about capturing the feel of the place. It's as important as the composition or getting the exposure right. Before I even read your post on this one I felt abandonment at first glance. So you did well. I also like the composition and exposure too, so nice work Trog.
Greg

[MarcusK]

trog,

The traffic cone image i like because of the red v/s the dead surrounding... but like frog mentioned, having a bigger backdrop behind it woud have been better...

As far as the desolation goes, i don't really see it.... its because you shot it from the top... I believe that shooting from a lower position would have been more effective....

As for the critique, well i opened up this topic, check it out if you like

http://forums.photographyreview.com/...125#post191125

Marc

[MarcusK]

trog,

The traffic cone image i like because of the red v/s the dead surrounding... but like frog mentioned, having a bigger backdrop behind it woud have been better...

As far as the desolation goes, i don't really see it.... its because you shot it from the top... I believe that shooting from a lower position would have been more effective....

As for the critique, well i opened up this topic, check it out if you like

http://forums.photographyreview.com/...125#post191125

Marc

[Overbeyond]

"the critique should be about whether or not i have successfully captured the feeling of the place.. or at least i think it should.. not about how perfect or imperfect each image is or what is the best out of the three.."

You must be having a laugh trog. You put these images up for critique and when you don't hear what you expect, you then tell us how we should doing it.

What we have here are some pretty dull, uninteresting snap shots of a totally uninteresting looking environment. I grant you things do look miserable enough though.
I'm sorry but I cannot find anything positive on these, even when I think of summer.
Tom

[trog100]

well overbeyond or grumpy old man.. i think pretty much the same about your asian people snap shots.. but i know there is interest in them even if it is a somewhat demeaning "peeking at the natives" kind of interest..

i dont feel the need to tell u so thow.. we see what we see.. i have a feeling of animosity from u.. so i will take your critique for what its worth.. exactly nothing..

trog

[molaselake]

"Peeking at the natives" shots would probably NOT involve posed portraits. Those people wanted their portraits taken and they were done so respectively. Unless you're a flaming racist, you should view them as you do any portrait.

I'm also going to throw a word out there that some people might find foreign. It's modesty. I know, I know, it's hard to pronounce and the definition is complicated, but I suggest exploring it a bit.

[GB1]

Looking at all the pix, I like the RV and the SUV shots. Both are good quality and tell a story in a way... esp nice to someone who lives in a warm(er) climate area. The 1st and 2nd shots on the orig. posting are a bit too devoid of a subject (I was going to say a big bunch of nothing ... ha ha.. I'll just say that), and the cone subject is just a little too weak. Still, these together as a series come out very interesting to me - again, they tell a story.

GB