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    Senior Member cyberlord's Avatar
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    Pentax *ist DL / DS Differences?

    I'm contemplating a DSLR purchase soon (Canon A1 currently) as I am tired of scanning film!!

    I'm looking at either the Nikon D50 or one of the Pentax ist models.

    I've searched and compared the DS and DL on several sites and have not found a comparison where they differ to much. Of course the comparisons don't take about buffer size, frames per second, start up time, shutter lag etc.

    So I ask you all what are the major differences that warrant the price difference? If you know a good comparison site that goes a little more in depth I'd appreciate that info too.

    Thanks,

    Tim
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    Re: Pentax *ist DL / DS Differences?

    Hi Cyberlord...below is a cut and paste from the brochure on the Pentax site. On the left is the DS2 and on the right is the DL (which I recently purchased). Based on this...I see little or no difference except weight. I made the purchase based on my wifes having tried out all the models in these prices. She chose hers by the way it felt and the menu button placement for her. I chose so we could learn the same units at the same time. I love mine and there are things I wish were better on them, but for my needs, they are great. I also have a Nikon Coolpix 8400 point and shoot.
    Hope this helps...Ken




    Type


    TTL autofocus, auto-exposure digital SLR digital-still camera with stainless steel chassis construction and built-in retractable P-TTL auto flash.


    Type


    TTL autofocus, auto-exposure digital SLR camera with stainless steel chassis construction and built-in retractable P-TTL auto flash.


    Sensor


    Interline interlace CCD with a primary color filter Size: 23.5mm x 15.7mm Total pixels: 6.31 megapixels Color Depth: 8 bit (JPEG) or 12 bit (RAW)


    Sensor


    Interline interlace CCD with a primary color filter Size: 23.5mm x 15.7mm Total pixels: 6.31 megapixels Color Depth: 8 bit (JPEG) or 12 bit (RAW)


    Lens Conversion Factor


    1.5X


    Lens Conversion Factor


    1.5X


    Resolution (Recorded Pixels)


    JPEG: [6M] 3008 x 2008, [4M] 2400 x 1600, [1.5M] 1536 x 1024, RAW: [6M] 3008 x 2008


    Resolution (Recorded Pixels)


    JPEG: [6M] 3008 x 2008, [4M] 2400 x 1600, [1.5M] 1536 x 1024, RAW: [6M] 3008 x 2008


    ISO Sensitivity


    Auto, Manual ISO 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200


    ISO Sensitivity


    Auto, Manual ISO 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200


    File Formats


    JPEG (Exif 2.21), RAW, DCF, DPOF, PRINT Image Matching III


    File Formats


    JPEG (Exif 2.21), RAW, DCF, DPOF, PRINT Image Matching III


    Storage Media


    SD memory card


    Storage Media


    SD memory card


    Color Space


    sRGB, Adobe RGB


    Color Space


    sRGB, Adobe RGB


    Lens Mount


    PENTAX KAF bayonet mount Usable Lenses: PENTAX KAF2, KAF, and KA mount lenses, Power zoom function not available K-mount lenses usable with restrictions S-mount lenses usable with adapter 67/645 lenses usable with adapter and with restrictions


    Lens Mount


    PENTAX KAF bayonet mount Usable Lenses: PENTAX KAF2, KAF, and KA-mount lenses, Power zoom function not available K-mount lenses usable with restrictions S-mount lenses usable with adapter 67/645 lenses usable with adapter and with restrictions


    Focusing System


    TTL phase-matching 11 point autofocus system (SAFOX VIII) with selectable spot AF, Applicable illumination range EV0 - EV19 (at Standard Output Sensitivity 200 with 50mm F1.4 lens), Mode: AF-single (with focus lock); Manual focus, AF-continuous 11 point, auto select or spot AF selectable


    Focusing System


    TTL phase-matching 3 point autofocus system (SAFOX VIII) with selectable spot AF, Applicable illumination range EV0 - EV19 (at Standard Output Sensitivity 200 with 50mm F1.4 lens), Mode: AF-single (with focus lock); Manual focus, AF-continuous available when you select Action mode, Wide or spot AF selectable


    Exposure Control


    Metering System: TTL open-aperture 16-segment metering (coupled with lens and AF information) Metering Mode: Multi-segment metering, Center-weighted metering, Spot metering Metering Range: EV 1 - 21.5 (at Standard Output Sensitivity 200 with 50mm F1.4 lens)


    Exposure Control


    Metering System: TTL open-aperture 16-segment metering (coupled with lens and AF information) Metering Mode: Multi-segment metering, Center-weighted metering, Spot metering Metering Range: EV 1 - 21.5 (at Standard Output Sensitivity 200 with 50mm F1.4 lens)


    Exposure Compensation 2 EV (1/2EV steps or 1/3EV steps)


    Exposure Compensation 2 EV (1/2EV steps or 1/3EV steps)


    Auto Bracketing


    3 frames 1.5EV (0.5EV steps) or 1.0EV (0.3EV steps)


    Auto Bracketing


    3 frames 1.5EV (0.5EV steps) or 1.0EV (0.3EV steps)


    Magnified Image Playback


    12X


    Magnified Image Playback


    12X


    Digital Filter


    B&W, Sepia, Soft (three-level amount adjustable), Slim, Wide


    Digital Filter


    B&W, Sepia, Soft (three-level amount adjustable), Slim, Wide


    White Balance


    Auto, Daylight, Shade, Cloudy, Tungsten Light, Fluorescent Light (W, D, N), Flash, Manual setting


    White Balance


    Auto, Daylight, Shade, Cloudy, Tungsten Light, Fluorescent Light (W, D, N), Flash, Manual setting


    Shutter


    Electronically controlled vertical-run focal plane shutter, Speed: 1/4000 - 30 seconds and bulb


    Shutter


    Electronically controlled vertical-run focal plane shutter, Speed: 1/4000 - 30 seconds and bulb


    Drive Modes


    Single-frame advance, continuous advance, self-timer, auto bracket and remote control


    Drive Modes


    Single-frame advance, continuous advance, self-timer, auto bracket and remote control


    Continuous Shooting


    Approx. 2.8fps, JPEG (up to 5 consecutive frames), RAW (up to 3 consecutive frames)


    Continuous Shooting


    Approx. 2.8fps, JPEG (up to 5 consecutive frames), RAW (up to 3 consecutive frames)


    Optical Viewfinder


    Glass Pentaprism. Focusing screen: Natural-Bright-Matte, Field of view: 95%. Magnification: 0.95X Diopter adjustment: -2.5 - +1.5m-1


    Optical Viewfinder


    Pentamirror. Focusing screen: Natural-Bright-Matte II, Field of view: 96%. Magnification: 0.85X (with 50m F1.4 at infinity), Diopter adjustment: -2.5 - +1.5m-1


    LCD Monitor


    2.5 inch, low-temperature polysilicon TFT color LCD monitor with backlight (approx. 210,000 pixels)


    LCD Monitor


    2.5 inch, low-temperature polysilicon TFT color LCD monitor with backlight (approx. 210,000 pixels)


    Built-in Flash


    Series-control retractable P-TTL pop-up flash Guide number: 15.6 (Standard Output Sensitivity 200/m), Angle of view coverage: 28mm wide-angle (equivalent to 35mm), Hot shoe, sync-speed: 1/180 sec


    Built-in Flash


    Series-control retractable P-TTL pop-up flash Guide number: 15.6 (Standard Output Sensitivity 200/m), Angle of view coverage: 28mm wide-angle (equivalent to 35mm), Hot shoe, sync-speed: 1/180 sec


    Interfaces


    USB 2.0 (HI-SPEED), Video out (Compatible with NTSC and PAL formats), SD Memory Card, PictBridge compatible


    Interfaces


    USB 2.0 (HI-SPEED), Video out (Compatible with NTSC and PAL formats), SD Memory Card, PictBridge compatible


    Power Sources


    Four AA (Lithium, alkaline, or rechargeable Ni-MH) batteries, or two CR-V3 Lithium batteries Optional AC adapter also available


    Power Sources


    Four AA (Lithium, alkaline, or rechargeable Ni-MH) batteries, or two CR-V3 Lithium batteries Optional AC adapter also available


    Dimensions


    4.9 x 3.6 x 2.6 inches (125 x 92.5 x 67mm)


    Dimensions


    4.9 x 3.6 x 2.6 inches (125 x 92.5 x 66mm)


    Weight


    17.8 oz. (505g) without battery and SD memory card


    Weight


    16.6 oz. (470g) without battery and SD memory card


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    Re: Pentax *ist DL / DS Differences?

    From what I see here, the difference is in the viewfinder. A second generation focusing screen, a slightly wider field of view (less magnification) and implies a brighter overall image.

    Even if the viewfinder had a brigher image I'm not sure it's worth the price difference.

    Now to decide between the DL or a Nikon D50.

    That will take a trip to Best Buy (no photo stores around here) this weekend to see how each feels.

    Thanks for the info,

    Tim

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    Re: Pentax *ist DL / DS Differences?

    There was a side by side comparison of the *ist, D50, Canon 350D, KM Maxxum 5D and the Olympus Evolt E-500 in the March issue of Popular Photography and imaging. They rated them in 4 categories. 1 image quality, 2 Control, 3 Ease of use, 4 system flexibility. The Pentax rated below the Nikon in every category except for easy of use. You should see if you can find the issue to read about the test in more detail.
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    Re: Pentax *ist DL / DS Differences?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyberlord
    From what I see here, the difference is in the viewfinder. A second generation focusing screen, a slightly wider field of view (less magnification) and implies a brighter overall image.

    Even if the viewfinder had a brigher image I'm not sure it's worth the price difference.

    Now to decide between the DL or a Nikon D50.

    That will take a trip to Best Buy (no photo stores around here) this weekend to see how each feels.

    Thanks for the info,

    Tim
    One other difference I found between the DS2 and DL...the DS2 has an 11 point focusing system and the DL only has a 3 point system.
    All of the cameras that Michael mentioned will be great buys...but it really is going to come down to what YOU like the best. Go play with them...then choose.
    Ken
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    Re: Pentax *ist DL / DS Differences?

    hows this for a question, how the hell do you pronounce *ist DL. is it, "asterick i-s-t-d-l" or what? lol, ive always wondered that. never heard it mentioned either. just "the pentax body"...
    ahsan

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    Re: Pentax *ist DL / DS Differences?

    I have a Pentax ist DL and I would like to know if someone would recommend an exterior flash that works well with a 100-300 Zoom.
    ahsan

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