Quote Originally Posted by Lava Lamp
. There were both black vultures and turkey vultures. This turkey was failty close. There was a black one prety close, too. I'll post it later.

By the way, Santa Claus brought me a Sibley Guide the size of a dictionary. Very, very nice.

I am not saying you are wrong about the black vulture ID, but take a look at PAGE 107 of that new book ;) Juvenile TV's look similiar to black vultures.