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    Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    Hi
    I have a new Olympus E520 DSLR and a about a 10 year old Kalimar T36 flash unit. Can I use them together and if so what settings should I use"? The flash unit has a calibration for different film speeds and different f stops to use. I have tried using them together and the flash gets activated by the hot shoe in the camera when the camera is set on automatic.
    I would like to use this flash if possible because of its power, features for wide,normal and 2 telephoto settings, plus it swivels and can use bounce flash. I'd love to get your thoughts and feedback.
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    Re: Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    Quote Originally Posted by image4u
    Hi
    I have a new Olympus E520 DSLR and a about a 10 year old Kalimar T36 flash unit. Can I use them together and if so what settings should I use"? The flash unit has a calibration for different film speeds and different f stops to use. I have tried using them together and the flash gets activated by the hot shoe in the camera when the camera is set on automatic.
    I would like to use this flash if possible because of its power, features for wide,normal and 2 telephoto settings, plus it swivels and can use bounce flash. I'd love to get your thoughts and feedback.
    Thanks
    I found one place on line that said the trigger voltage for that camera is below 12 volts. If I were to guess I would say the flash is much higher and would probably ruin the camera if you tried it. If you can find out the trigger voltage of the flash and it is below the 12 volt level it looks like it would be OK, but if you don't know for sure I wouldn't risk taking the chance, Jeff
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    Re: Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    If the trigger voltage is within the specs for the camera you will have to use it as a manual flash. The camera may not be able to control the power of the flash like the current flashes.
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    Re: Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    Everything is doable, but as mentioned above you need to know if it is going to be compatible or risk damaging your camera.

    For external flash, I'm using an old vivitar flash (originally for a Pentax) with my Nikon D40, I connect them both via a cable, attached to the camera's hot shoe and a connector in the flash.

    I shoot in manual mode, guess at the exposure and shoot multiple times until I get things right.

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    Re: Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    i have three older Vivitar flashes and two of them have a trigger voltage over 200 volts each, so be careful, Jeff
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    Re: Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    I would sure check the specs on any older flash before connecting it directly to the camera or my radio triggers. Small 3volt coil relays with 10amp contacts are very inexpensive and it is easy to make an isolator to keep those unknown voltages out of the camera circuits. I will see if I can draw and post a simple schematic this weekend.

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    Re: Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    CaptainPenguin posted this link during the same sort of discussion in the Nikon forum

    http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html

    It says the Kalimar is OK for Canon EOS
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    Re: Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    I think your best bet is to contact Canon just to get their opinion. They may try and discourage it and may remind you that using equipment that's not recommended could result in voiding any remaining warranty.

    My feeling is that film stuff is for film, digital for digital. Lenses are really the exception. I agree that if it's w/in the trigger voltage you're probably okay. But in this age of eBay, why not just play it safe and sell it, then get a flash that is designed for your camera.

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    Re: Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    Here is a simple schematic for a relay isolator that limits the voltage to the camera to 3 volts. I found the relays on EBAY.

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    Re: Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    I'm surprised a relay acts fast enough, particularly on only 3v.
    I would have thought a semiconductor solution would be more suitable.
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    Re: Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartWombat
    I'm surprised a relay acts fast enough, particularly on only 3v.
    I would have thought a semiconductor solution would be more suitable.
    Most relays have the activation time listed in the spec's. Unless you are purchasing High current power relays the small relays activate 1 to 8 Milli second which which falls well within most shutter sync. settings. 1/60-1/250 sec (the duration of the flash time is very short 1/10,000 second or less).

    NOTE: 16.66 msec is 1/60th of a second.
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    Re: Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    I posted this in the lighting section, but thought it should be in this thread too.

    http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html

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    Re: Old flash unit w/new dig camera

    A solid state isolator would take several components. Not very difficult, but a relay is quick and easy. I plan to fit it into a 35MM plastic film can.

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