View Full Version : Rebel XTi and EF-S 10-22mm Lens


Photo-John
09-22-2006, 05:32 PM
I got a loaner Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM lens (http://www.photographyreview.com/sf-1/befid-96323/pid-22645373/productreviewscrx.aspx?dnatrs=zoom_lens-canon-less_than_25). Since the XTi was so cheap and small I wanted to compliment it with a wider and better lens than the kit lens. I went to the camera store and checked out the Tamron 11-18mm f/4.5-5.6[/url[ and this one. And then Canon agreed to loan me the 10-22mm for the annual bike tradeshow that I have to shoot next week.

I think they've made a sale. This lens costs considerably more than I planned to spend. But it's a beauty. It's sturdier than I expected, the auto focus seems really quick and accurate, and best of all - no distortion. I've never had a wide angle lens that doesn't bend straight lines towards the edges of the frame. Well, I think my 20mm f/2.8 doesn't, but it's nowhere near this wide. If you do the math - 10mm x 1.6 - the wide of end of this lens is equivalent to 16mm on a 35mm camera. That's just a hair longer than my 15mm fisheye, but without the distortion. I'm psyched!

Photo is of member and PhotographyREVIEW.com developer [url=http://forums.photographyreview.com/member.php?u=240354]cr_mmurillo (http://www.photographyreview.com/sf-1/befid-96323/pid-25263906/productreviewscrx.aspx?dnatrs=zoom_lens-tamron-less_than_25), in his cube. He just bought a Sony Alpha digital SLR and he's hooked on photography :thumbsup:

Photo-John
09-22-2006, 05:34 PM
Here are a couple taken in my cube/nest to compare the angle of view between the kit lens and the 10-22mm. The first photo was taken at the 18mm, wide end of the kit lens. And the second was taken at the 10mm, wide end of the 10-22mm lens.

Photo-John
09-22-2006, 05:36 PM
Saving the best for last, a photo of my home office/nest, and even better - Parker the survivor. For those of you know followed his illness, he's back to normal :)

Liz
09-22-2006, 06:07 PM
That's an awesome lens.....you must be really psyched with a new camera and a new lens! It's not easy to find a wide angle lens with no distortion.

I've seen MMurillo around.....it's nice having more of your staff join the community here.

Nice shots.....hmmmmm......your home "nest/office" makes me feel really good about my office! :p

Parker looks great - very happy and content look on his face. I'm glad he's back to normal.

Liz

Saving the best for last, a photo of my home office/nest, and even better - Parker the survivor. For those of you know followed his illness, he's back to normal :)

livin4lax09
09-26-2006, 10:20 AM
wow, incredible lens. 10mm? use that sucker on a film body, and I can't imagine how awesomely wide it would be.

Sebastian
09-27-2006, 11:38 AM
Parker!!!

Awesome. Screw the lens, they don't give you companionship, Parker is the real story here.

Photo-John
09-27-2006, 10:48 PM
wow, incredible lens. 10mm? use that sucker on a film body, and I can't imagine how awesomely wide it would be.

The EF-S lenses won't work on a film body. They won't even work on all Canon digital bodies. The image circle is too small and the rear element protrudes too far to fit cameras older than the EOS 20D and Digital Rebel XT. If you put them on a 10D or a 1D Mark II, the rear element would make contact with the mirror. They only fit newer, 1.6x crop factor cameras.

Photo-John
09-27-2006, 10:49 PM
Parker!!!

Awesome. Screw the lens, they don't give you companionship, Parker is the real story here.

I agree. Parker is a great little guy and I'm very, very happy to have him back to his healthy and ornery self :)

Frans
10-13-2006, 03:32 AM
I was in the market for the same lens, but at the time there were none locally available. I went for the Tokina AT-X124 PRO DX (covers from 12-25mm @ F4) which costs about a third less. The Build is outstanding, similar to Canon L series and it has turned out to be one of the sharpest lenses in my collection. Only thing I dislike is that the quality build usually at a cost, and that cost is weight(570grams or approx 1pound). For interest sake I found a comparison between various L lenses and the Canon 10-22mm at :
http://wlcastleman.com/equip/reviews/16-35/index.htm

Photo-John
10-13-2006, 09:26 AM
Frans-
Thanks for posting that link. It looks like the 10-22mm measures up well in all areas except sharpness. Yesterday I set up a bunch of new photos taken with that lens and I have started to notice what I consider to be excessive softness. My photos weren't taken in a controlled environment though. So it's hard to say if they're a result of shallow depth-of-field or actual lens softness. I still like the lens because the field of view is absolutely unbeatable and the distortion is so minimal. And I was surprised by the build-quality. It feels comparable to an L lens. That's not something I expected.

I think I may collect comparable lenses from Sigma, Tamron, and Tokina for a controlled comparison. I'm very curious now.

Please post a review for your lens, if you haven't already. We need reviews in the review section these lenses. There's no such thing as too many reviews.

Read and write lens reviews >> (http://www.photographyreview.com/befid-96323/sf-6/pgnum-1/nm-10/productlistcrx.aspx)

Thanks for the post and thanks in advance for posting your reviews!

Photo-John
10-13-2006, 06:07 PM
I shot some controlled tests (relatively) with the Canon EF-S 10-22mm today. They're all posted at full resolution and haven't been adjusted except to convert them from the RAW files to JPEGs.

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 Sample Images >> (http://gallery.photographyreview.com/showgallery.php?si=canon+ef-s+10-22mm+sample&limit=&x=8&y=10)

I think they look great. They look sharper than I expected. The previous photos I shot in the field were mostly shot at f/5. Shooting action in the outdoors I'm often working fast and juggling the exposure and don't have the luxury of a static subject and tripod. But when I did use a tripod and stop down, the results are excellent. There is some obvious chromatic abberation. But I don't think it's too bad - especially for a super-wide angle lens. Plus, there are lots of software tools available now for correcting chromatic abberation. I'm using Adobe Lightroom Beta 4.0 and it has excellent lens correction tools. Of course, I didn't use those tools on my sample images. The chromatic abberation has been preserved for all to see.

Frans also posted some nice samples from his Tokina 12-24mm lens. His photos are what inspired me to get out the tripod and make my own tests. Thanks for posting your sample photos, Frans!

Frans
10-14-2006, 01:54 AM
For those who are interested I have place a couple of sample image (FULL SIZE) from my Tokina AT-X124 PRO DX lens for comparison purposes. They were taken in raw format and converted to JPEG using the supplied Canon software.

Sample image at 12mm
http://gallery.photographyreview.com/showphoto.php?photo=46988&cat=549

Another sample image at 12mm
http://gallery.photographyreview.com/showphoto.php?photo=46946&cat=549

A sample image at 24mm
http://gallery.photographyreview.com/showphoto.php?photo=46947&cat=549

The same shot take with a Canon EF50 f1.4
http://gallery.photographyreview.com/showphoto.php?photo=46948&cat=549

gilach
07-16-2007, 07:35 AM
The EF-S lenses won't work on a film body. They won't even work on all Canon digital bodies. The image circle is too small and the rear element protrudes too far to fit cameras older than the EOS 20D and Digital Rebel XT. If you put them on a 10D or a 1D Mark II, the rear element would make contact with the mirror. They only fit newer, 1.6x crop factor cameras.


Hey John, I just joined the forum and I'm looking for a newer digital SLR. I'm working my way backwards-deciding on a lens first and then a body. i'm really interested in the 10-22 mm Canon lens, but I'm a little confused on which body it will fit. Could you recommend a couple of Canon bodies for this lens with cost in mind?

best, Paul.

p.s. great forum you have.

deckcadet
07-16-2007, 01:29 PM
You might want a new thread, but the EF-S lenses will only work on Canon 1.6x crop bodies after the 10D:

EOS-300D (Digital Rebel)
EOS-20D
EOS-350D (Digital Rebel XT)
EOS-30D
EOS-400D (Digital Rebel XTi)

Mr Yuck
07-16-2007, 09:50 PM
John did you ever do a comparison? I'm looking at buying the Sigma 10mm-20mm along with an XTi.

mjs1973
07-17-2007, 03:49 AM
John did you ever do a comparison? I'm looking at buying the Sigma 10mm-20mm along with an XTi.


I totaly missed the Sigma 10-20mm lens. :mad2: I was debating between the Canon 10-22mm and the Tokina 12-24mm. The price difference, and the constant aperture made me go with the Tokina. I love the lens, but after I got it, I realized that the Sigma 10-20mm was out there for the same price as the Tokina. Makes me wish I would have researched that lens a little before I bought the Tokina. I'm not saying I would have bought the Sigma, but an extra 2mm on the wide end, and a shorter min. focusing distance would make a big difference for a lens that wide. I do love the Tokina, but it makes me wonder just what I'm missing without that extra 2mm.

Steve, (Another View) has the Sigma 10-20mm lens, and he seems to be very happy with it.