• 07-09-2005, 06:24 AM
    paulnj
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    trying to make John's list :)
    HERE ALMO ... A snake I took in northern NJ. YOU ID it :)

    *disclaimer*

    I only want to be on the list of LOTTERY WINNERS... all other lists are unimportant :)
  • 07-09-2005, 04:28 PM
    Mike T
    Re: trying to make John's list :)
    I know that one, I might need help with bird ID's but know snakes of NJ pretty good I spent a lot of time in my youth trying to catch these guys.

    Black Rat Snake.

    ps. Thanks for the bird ID's

    Mike
  • 07-10-2005, 12:15 AM
    almo
    Re: trying to make John's list :)
    Elaphe obsoleta obsoleta
  • 07-10-2005, 12:24 AM
    almo
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    Hey Paul....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paulnj
    HERE ALMO ... A snake I took in northern NJ. YOU ID it :)

    *disclaimer*

    I only want to be on the list of LOTTERY WINNERS... all other lists are unimportant :)

    Can you ID this one?
  • 07-10-2005, 05:47 AM
    paulnj
    Re: Hey Paul....
    black racer :) they bite you 3 times a second those SOB florida snakes ;) I always try to find eastern diamondback in FL, but have yet to find one outside of gladesherp :)

    BTW.... wanna laugh.. check the file name on my image :)
  • 07-10-2005, 05:51 AM
    paulnj
    Re: trying to make John's list :)
    Thanks Mike and John.... I thought so when I caught her(Yes I can sex snakes without probing...no male genitals here) That snake was as tame as ANY pet trade snake ! I didn't remove her from the wild! I only held her so my friend can take a closer image.. then I place it right back in the same exact spot.

    BTW Mike..... a friend found an eastern hognose( took PHOTOS to prove it) in Pequannock watershed in may.... very rare find in NJ these days!
  • 07-10-2005, 02:36 PM
    Mike T
    Re: trying to make John's list :)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paulnj
    BTW Mike..... a friend found an eastern hognose( took PHOTOS to prove it) in Pequannock watershed in may.... very rare find in NJ these days!

    I never saw a Hognose in the wild here in NJ, although I know somebody that caught one less than a quarter of a mile from where I grew up, we're talking 30 some odd years ago. I did come across one on a golf course not to far over the river in PA.

    Mike
  • 07-10-2005, 02:47 PM
    almo
    Re: trying to make John's list :)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike T
    I never saw a Hognose in the wild here in NJ, although I know somebody that caught one less than a quarter of a mile from where I grew up, we're talking 30 some odd years ago. I did come across one on a golf course not to far over the river in PA.

    Mike

    When I lived in Michigan some dude came into the petstore with 3 Hognose babies he picked up from his drive way. He had run over like 4 or 5 more of them, but 3 survived. He actually wanted to sell the poor things.
  • 07-10-2005, 02:50 PM
    almo
    Re: trying to make John's list :)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paulnj
    HERE ALMO ... A snake I took in northern NJ. YOU ID it :)

    *disclaimer*

    I only want to be on the list of LOTTERY WINNERS... all other lists are unimportant :)

    I forgot to tell you that when I was in NC I came across a 5-6 foot blackie. I tried to wrangle him so I could get a few pictures but the damn thing just bit me and took off in a little pond. Shucks...:o
  • 07-10-2005, 06:26 PM
    Mike T
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    Re: trying to make John's list :)
    I just remembered I got a shot of a black snake a few months back. Seems to me I use to see a lot more snakes years ago so I don't think it's just the hognose that is getting to be rare in NJ.
  • 07-11-2005, 05:38 AM
    Speed
    If You Like Snakes...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike T
    I just remembered I got a shot of a black snake a few months back. Seems to me I use to see a lot more snakes years ago so I don't think it's just the hognose that is getting to be rare in NJ.

    Then you'll love North Carolina!

    I've seen more black racers than anything else, but I've seen my fair share of copperheads as well. Throw in some water snakes, some green snakes, an occassional rat snake and corn snake, and a rattler and a water moccason, and you get the idea. Oh yeah, I've also seen two corral snakes here in Carteret County. Double checked the color bands, and they were corral snakes not king snakes. "Red touches yellow, kill a fellow." Red touches black on a king snake.
  • 07-11-2005, 06:25 AM
    paulnj
    Re: trying to make John's list :)
    I used to find milksnakes, eastern kingsnakes , tons of garters, red bellied, ringnecked, a few copperhead and occationally a timber rattler nearly every year as a child. Now I see very few snakes besides garters and watersnakes. I did find a pine snake a few years back and know were 2 timber rattler dens are :)

    Rob... tell me which kingsnake in your area is banded ;)
  • 07-11-2005, 06:49 AM
    almo
    Re: trying to make John's list :)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paulnj
    I used to find milksnakes, eastern kingsnakes , tons of garters, red bellied, ringnecked, a few copperhead and occationally a timber rattler nearly every year as a child. Now I see very few snakes besides garters and watersnakes. I did find a pine snake a few years back and know were 2 timber rattler dens are :)

    Rob... tell me which kingsnake in your area is banded ;)

    Scarlet Kingsnake (Lampropeltis triangulum elapsoides)

    Eastern Milk Snake (Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum), although this species is sadled like a cornsnake some specimens could be seen as banded by a layman. Also, in the pet trade anyway, there is a banded phase, and a hybrid with gray bandeds, (Lampropeltis alterna).
  • 07-11-2005, 07:07 AM
    paulnj
    Re: trying to make John's list :)
    AH, so NC has dem dare scarlet kingsnakies down yonder ;) I learned something today :)

    John .... ball pythons( python regalis I do believe?) come pied, caramel albino and even a purple(lavander) leucistic I do believe, but we all know what they REALLY are supposed to look like :) I raised a trio of albino ruthveni in my youth pal :)
  • 07-11-2005, 07:17 AM
    almo
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    Re: trying to make John's list :)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paulnj
    AH, so NC has dem dare scarlet kingsnakies down yonder ;) I learned something today :)

    John .... ball pythons( python regalis I do believe?) come pied, caramel albino and even a purple(lavander) leucistic I do believe, but we all know what they REALLY are supposed to look like :) I raised a trio of albino ruthveni in my youth pal :)

    It's Python regius, and that is my Favorite snake!!!!

    I would kill for a piebald regius. Oh man thay are so cool.
  • 07-11-2005, 12:03 PM
    paulnj
    Re: trying to make John's list :)
    well then.........

    http://www.briansharp.com/505pied3_large.gif

    and this guys breeding collection of balls has always made me go.... DAMB!!!!!!!!

    http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/co...all_python.asp
  • 07-11-2005, 01:39 PM
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    Scarlet Kingsnake
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by almo
    Scarlet Kingsnake (Lampropeltis triangulum elapsoides)

    Eastern Milk Snake (Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum), although this species is sadled like a cornsnake some specimens could be seen as banded by a layman. Also, in the pet trade anyway, there is a banded phase, and a hybrid with gray bandeds, (Lampropeltis alterna).

    Almo beat me to it!