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    mooo...wooh hoooh! schrackman's Avatar
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    A couple of first images with the Digital Rebel

    Well, these are my first attempts today with the drebel. Not that great, I know, but I still have a lot to learn about this camera. The first one is underexposed, and the second my lighting isn't all the great as you can tell by the harsh shadows. One thing I like about this camera is that the white balance settings seem much more accurate than my CP5000.

    I am having problems, however, in getting sharp images. It seems no matter how still I sit/stand, or even if I let the camera sit still on its own, I just can't get very sharp images. Autofocus is no different. I've adjusted the sharpness up a notch in my parameters setting. I am hoping the lenses aren't the culprit.

    Any other drebel users out there have a problem with sharpness when you first started using this camera?

    Ray
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails A couple of first images with the Digital Rebel-grass.jpg   A couple of first images with the Digital Rebel-magneto.jpg  

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    Go Magneto!!

    Are you a comic buff, or do you collect toys?

    At what point is your image not sharp? If I'm not mistaken, all images viewed full size appear pretty soft.. I know mine do with the D100. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Post some samples of what you are talking about...
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    My images are a bit soft with the Digital Rebel as well. I run them through Photoshop and apply the Unsharpen mask filter to the Lightness chanel and that cleans them right up.

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    List the lenses you use.

    the 18-55 that comes with it is not sharp, period. I sold mine for 60 bucks.
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    Question Lenses......

    Hi Ray,

    I have the Rebel. When I first got it, I had the kit and had a problem with soft and sometimes blurry pics, but I have a slight camera shake problem. I soon sold the kit lens and recycled my other lenses due to the cropping factor. There is a definite difference in my camera shake showing up with digital than with the film camera - again due to the 1.6 difference.

    I find that with the lenses I have now, I do get sharp images most of the time unless I'm careless or in some low light situations without a flash, etc. My Canon 50mm/f1.4 gets amazingly sharp results as does the 17-40mm/f4L. I'm not sure how much is dependent on the camera or to the lens, but my personal experience is that the lens makes a world of difference.

    Liz



    Quote Originally Posted by schrackman
    Well, these are my first attempts today with the drebel. Not that great, I know, but I still have a lot to learn about this camera. The first one is underexposed, and the second my lighting isn't all the great as you can tell by the harsh shadows. One thing I like about this camera is that the white balance settings seem much more accurate than my CP5000.

    I am having problems, however, in getting sharp images. It seems no matter how still I sit/stand, or even if I let the camera sit still on its own, I just can't get very sharp images. Autofocus is no different. I've adjusted the sharpness up a notch in my parameters setting. I am hoping the lenses aren't the culprit.

    Any other drebel users out there have a problem with sharpness when you first started using this camera?

    Ray
    Last edited by Liz; 04-29-2004 at 06:22 AM. Reason: stupid mistake

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    Hi Brian,

    Nope, not a comic buff. I was just with my wife getting a teriyaki bowl at this restaurant and they had a machine that sold these toys. I was trying to get spider man because he looked really cool but ended up with magneto.

    Later tonight I'll post some pictures that came out soft so you all can see what I'm talking about.

    Ray

    Quote Originally Posted by Kokopeli
    Are you a comic buff, or do you collect toys?

    At what point is your image not sharp? If I'm not mistaken, all images viewed full size appear pretty soft.. I know mine do with the D100. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Post some samples of what you are talking about...
    ~Brian

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    Wow Gene, that's a lot of moola for a lens. For that amount it had better shave and shower you too , cuz I'd cry if I had to shell out three hundred bucks for a lens, which may actually be what I'll end up having to do.

    Sean, the sigma lenses I have are the AF 28-80 f3.5-5.6 Aspherical Mini Zoom Macro and the AF 70-300 f4-5.6 DL Super Macro zoom lens. I just may take these back and exchange them for a single 28-105 2.8-4 ASP zoom lens or something similar.

    Ray


    Quote Originally Posted by genebowhay
    Dear Ray:

    Looks like you're getting pretty good shots with your Sigma lenses. Did you take these pics with the 28-80 or the 70-300? Now that you've got a digital SLR remember: always spend your money on the glass. Sigma makes very good lenses, I've got some I used with my Canon A-1 and a telephoto that I use with my 10-D. But, I've got to get better glass myself, I know that.

    Currently, I'm saving up for the Canon 500 mm L lens with IS, its $5500, but that's the lens I want. Just a few more weeks and I should have enough to get it. I want to have it in time for the Yosemite Gathering. Then we can both try it out.

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    Hi Liz,

    From reading all the posts I gather that this is normal. Well, I think I'll just focus on getting used to the camera before I come to any rash conclusions.

    Thanks everyone for your comments!

    Ray


    Quote Originally Posted by Liz
    Hi Ray,

    I have the Rebel. When I first got it, I had the kit and had a problem with soft and sometimes blurry pics, but I have a slight camera shake problem. I soon sold the kit lens and recycled my other lenses due to the cropping factor. There is a definite difference in my camera shake showing up with digital than with the film camera - again due to the 1.6 difference.

    I find that with the lenses I have now, I do get sharp images most of the time unless I'm careless or in some low light situations without a flash, etc. My Canon 50mm/f1.4 gets amazingly sharp results as does the 17-40mm/f4L. I'm not sure how much is dependent on the camera or to the lens, but my personal experience is that the lens makes a world of difference.

    Liz

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    Ray I have

    Ray I have the Sigma 70-300 f4-5.6D APO macro super lense and used it on my new D70 for the first time last night. I will have to say I was less than thrilled with the results. Here is an example what do you think.
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    Well OldTimer, that's not too bad considerning how much sun was out. Nice job.

    I took some more pictures today on my lunch break and they look a bit sharper, so maybe I just need to get used to the camera.

    Ray

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    Some pictures from today

    I feel like I have bit more control on sharpness today than I did yesterday. But getting the proper color balance and exposure will take more work it seems. In time I'm sure I'll get the hang of this camera. All these were taken at Corriganville Park in Simi Valley.

    Forgot to mention these were shot with the AF 28-80 Aspherical.

    Ray
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails A couple of first images with the Digital Rebel-bumblebee.jpg   A couple of first images with the Digital Rebel-milk-thistle.jpg   A couple of first images with the Digital Rebel-corriganville.jpg  
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    No problem

    I see no problem with sharpness here. Any PS work done on these images?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Timer
    I see no problem with sharpness here. Any PS work done on these images?
    Yep, I think I've got it figured out now. This is the first time I've used REAL lenses. My CP5000 only had a teleconverter. Not a bad accessory in the least but not quite the same as what I've got now. So it was just a matter of getting used to using them. I definitely now plan to keep these lenses and just practice, practice, practice.

    Oh, and yes, there was my usual ps work done...curves, color balance, and unsharp mask.

    Ray

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