Rock n´ Roll Angel

[BlueRob]

Exploring new styles...as usual...I fixed my eye on the great work of Alison (member in here) and saw this style which I guess is called and correct me if I`m wrong "split tone" not a B&W but not a Sepia and not a monotone, with rich subtle range of black, white and some sort of creamy color, very light rich.
Any how this is my attempt with this so shoot the C&C.
Personally I think this attempt lacks the "dynamic range" and fabulous range of light and "creaminess" I was looking for.
Help me get closer

[w.slayman]

Rob,

I do not have the knowledge to attempt to answer your question (or understand it) but your composition, and lighting is right on, and both subjects are georgous. Nicely done

[Grandpaw]

I think it came out very well. My one suggestion would be to crop the top and get rid of about half the area above her head, Jeff

[BlueRob]

Rob,

I do not have the knowledge to attempt to answer your question (or understand it) but your composition, and lighting is right on, and both subjects are georgous. Nicely done

Thanks a lot WS a no doubt both girls are a great looking, the mother has beautiful eyes, the type that somehow shift color depending on the light. An her daughter cute no doubt but a very hard to capture subject, the type of kid that sees a camera and start making weird faces LOL.

[BlueRob]

I think it came out very well. My one suggestion would be to crop the top and get rid of about half the area above her head, Jeff

Thanks a lot Grandpaw, I´ll do a tighter crop as suggested and see how that looks :thumbsup:

[AgingEyes]

if I`m wrong "split tone" not a B&W but not a Sepia and not a monotone, with rich subtle range of black, white and some sort of creamy color, very light rich.

Without seeing an example, I'm not sure what style you're referring to specifically. As presented, yours is a toned back and white photo for sure. It doesn't look like a split-tonning to me unless it was done very, very subtly. I'm sure you knew that black & white photo can be colored.

Personally I think this attempt lacks the "dynamic range" and fabulous range of light and "creaminess" I was looking for.

Since your photo has clippings in both the highlight end and the shadow side, I'd say it has all the dynamic range that there can be, i.e., from Zone I to Zone X. As fot creaminess, first thing that came to my mind is the use of soft-focus filter when shooting or during pp, and/or the use of "glamourous glow" or something like that in Photoshop and the like.

As presented, it's not the sharpest image there and so in a way, the softness that you might be looking for seems to be there already to a certain degree. I personally would try add some vignetting to see what it's like.

Overall, I think it's a good image, like other have said. And I'm sure you knew that.

[BlueRob]

Without seeing an example, I'm not sure what style you're referring to specifically. As presented, yours is a toned back and white photo for sure. It doesn't look like a split-tonning to me unless it was done very, very subtly. I'm sure you knew that black & white photo can be colored.



Since your photo has clippings in both the highlight end and the shadow side, I'd say it has all the dynamic range that there can be, i.e., from Zone I to Zone X. As fot creaminess, first thing that came to my mind is the use of soft-focus filter when shooting or during pp, and/or the use of "glamourous glow" or something like that in Photoshop and the like.

As presented, it's not the sharpest image there and so in a way, the softness that you might be looking for seems to be there already to a certain degree. I personally would try add some vignetting to see what it's like.

Overall, I think it's a good image, like other have said. And I'm sure you knew that.

First of all thanks for your comments AE, regarding the style that I´m aiming let me point the way to one of Alison pics in the forum....a pic is better that a million words right

http://gallery.photographyreview.com...&ppuser=246535

Maybe I used the term "split tone" incorrectly and maybe it is a colored B&W, which by the way I was not aware that B&W could be colored until you mention it :blush2:

Also you put me into trouble with "vignetting" term, no clue what you were talking about until Mr. Google enlightened me with the definition and some examples. I´ll look forward to make some test with it.:thumbsup:

[Shebang]

I, too, am a huge fan of Allison's work!

Technically, you are above my head...surprise. Surprise.

I think it's a great portrait -- (ya got another one for the Dec project). Even though it is a bit of a soft focus, it's a pleasing soft focus. I do like Grandpaw's crop suggestion. I would crop to just below that left section of facia (spelling?). I like the silly face of the girl, the mother's intent gaze conveys an acceptance and appreciation of her child -- seems to say, "Yeah, that's my kid, she's kinda silly sometimes." The background is a little busy, but because you used it to "frame" the subjects, it works well, IMHO. My nitpicky nitpick is that that the branch and arch lead into mom's ear, and that fact is emphasized because those two "lines" are parallel to one another.

You certainly do have a wide range of styles!

[BlueRob]

I, too, am a huge fan of Allison's work!

Technically, you are above my head...surprise. Surprise.

I think it's a great portrait -- (ya got another one for the Dec project). Even though it is a bit of a soft focus, it's a pleasing soft focus. I do like Grandpaw's crop suggestion. I would crop to just below that left section of facia (spelling?). I like the silly face of the girl, the mother's intent gaze conveys an acceptance and appreciation of her child -- seems to say, "Yeah, that's my kid, she's kinda silly sometimes." The background is a little busy, but because you used it to "frame" the subjects, it works well, IMHO. My nitpicky nitpick is that that the branch and arch lead into mom's ear, and that fact is emphasized because those two "lines" are parallel to one another.

You certainly do have a wide range of styles!

Technically above...well that very debatable....I just googled "vignetting" LOL

The soft focus effect that you mention is probably because of the PP work, mostly in my attempt to hide all the skin issues, that plus the color arrangement gives this sort of soft look.
You have a great eye for details! I haven't noticed the "parallel" branch till now
Thanks for your comments:thumbsup:

[shootme]

Yea, Allison's work is great, but so is yours Paula and HTH-Rob well what can I say. Can't comment here not qualified, the shot is great, but the feel I get tells me to add more contrast for a little sheen on the skin tone? Or maybe not, just not experienced enough to say. S

[BlueRob]

Yea, Allison's work is great, but so is yours Paula and HTH-Rob well what can I say. Can't comment here not qualified, the shot is great, but the feel I get tells me to add more contrast for a little sheen on the skin tone? Or maybe not, just not experienced enough to say. S

Thanks Shootme!

I´ll see what output do I get from adding a bit more contrast.:thumbsup:

[armando_m]

Great photo!

Love the light reflection in the lady's eyes

[Shebang]

Yea, Allison's work is great, but so is yours Paula ... S

Your check is in the mail -- wink, wink. Thanks.

[AgingEyes]

regarding the style that I´m aiming let me point the way to one of Alison pics in the forum....a pic is better that a million words right

http://gallery.photographyreview.com...&ppuser=246535

That does not look like it was taken in the same lighting condition as yours and so, naturally, the results differ, I'd think. If you want something like that, I'd say you could try shooting your subject back-lit or with light come largely from the side.

B&W could be colored until you mention it :blush2:

Back in the old days, all photographs were in black and white. What if you want them to have colors? You painted colors on the photograph itself.

[BlueRob]

Great photo!

Love the light reflection in the lady's eyes

Thanks Armando:thumbsup:

[BlueRob]

That does not look like it was taken in the same lighting condition as yours and so, naturally, the results differ, I'd think. If you want something like that, I'd say you could try shooting your subject back-lit or with light come largely from the side.

Thanks AE, I know is a completely different shot to start with and thus the result will so, but I`m still in doubt, they are both the same stile? I mean both are considered as B&W painted?

[AgingEyes]

I mean both are considered as B&W painted?

Both are toned black & white photos. The currently featured photo of the week on this forum is a neutral black & white photo.

[BlueRob]

Both are toned black & white photos. The currently featured photo of the week on this forum is a neutral black & white photo.

Got it! thanks AE:thumbsup:

[BlueRob]

Following your suggestions guys I did some corrections.
What say you!?
The compression to upload the pic ruined my sharpening work (girl´s hair), I guess we´ll have to live with it)

[shootme]

Yes, I like it, print and hang.

[BlueRob]

Yes, I like it, print and hang.

Thanks!:thumbsup: Yes, I´m planning on printing and framing it, and give it as a present to this gal and her family. That is why I´m trying to make it "perfect" and thanks to you chaps it has definitely improved :thumbsup:

[Shebang]

That compression whatever thingy ruined a lot more than hair. I take it that only appears in the PR photo and not the real one. Good shot and great fix pruning that branch out!

[BlueRob]

That compression whatever thingy ruined a lot more than hair. I take it that only appears in the PR photo and not the real one. Good shot and great fix pruning that branch out!

Yes it only ruined the PR version, I checked the "original" version at full size and its crisp as it should

[frapuchi]

Excellent yield of the skin, seems ivory. I like the diversity of the gaze of the subjects. Mother careful aim, the beautiful girl who looks fluffy and thinks about his business.
I like the choice of color change

[BlueRob]

Excellent yield of the skin, seems ivory. I like the diversity of the gaze of the subjects. Mother careful aim, the beautiful girl who looks fluffy and thinks about his business.
I like the choice of color change

Thank´s a lot for your comments:thumbsup: