Football @ night @ 6400 ISO

[JETA]

So all of this thinking and endless hours of reading about flash and football.....

Since my post I uploaded last week's game and the clarity and in focus pictures was much better. I made a few mental adjustments and it seemed to help.

However, I was very interested in shooting at 6400 iso. It gave me the capability to shoot at 1/400th ss which definitely made shooting easier. Also I dread the thought of losing my fps due to flash. It's the beauty of my camera. Last night our game wasn't too important so I figured I'd experiment and shoot at iso 6400.

What do you think?

Here are two shots right out of the camera. Normally these would be cropped and sharpened. I wanted to show exactly what they look like untouched. I also cropped to 100% so you could really see the noise. exif data should all be intact.

(all shots are ss/400, f/2.8, iso 6400)


100% crop



100% crop

[Old Timer]

If I could get that kind of performance out of my cameras I would never attach a flash. That's the reason I'm pinching pennies to move up to the next generation Nikon. Noise is reported to be very negligible at high ISOs. May just have to make that purchase before basketball season. Nice job on these.

[JETA]

If I could get that kind of performance out of my cameras I would never attach a flash. That's the reason I'm pinching pennies to move up to the next generation Nikon. Noise is reported to be very negligible at high ISOs. May just have to make that purchase before basketball season. Nice job on these.

Really? OMgosh, I'm totally rethinking what I've been doing.....

Your opinion means everything to me. I value it so much OT.

Thank you.

[ciddog91]

I think it looks good, particularly right out of the camera. I would think some sharpening would help, but these are nice....

NOW I WANT A Mark III :sad: :sad:

Maybe if I hit the Lotto...

Phil

[Jimmy B]

Jeta if those were my shots I would not be disappointed in them. Keep up the good work.
Jimmy B

[dhyravy]

These do look good, but I would expect that from a MKIII. I usually run high ISO shots through Noise Ninja to smooth out some of the grain. If done correctly you won't get the "rubbery" look on the skin etc. Depending on the usage for these, I would think they would be fine with a couple of minor adjustments. Nice work!

[JETA]

These do look good, but I would expect that from a MKIII. I usually run high ISO shots through Noise Ninja to smooth out some of the grain. If done correctly you won't get the "rubbery" look on the skin etc. Depending on the usage for these, I would think they would be fine with a couple of minor adjustments. Nice work!

These types of shots will be used for slideshows I compose and I sell prints. I probably sell mostly 4x6's and a few bigger prints here and there. I also sell small and medium sized digital downloads of these.

I've never used a noise reduction program and know zip about them. For some reason I always thought they made pics look less sharp.

Daniel, if you'd like to be more specific about the minor adjustments I'd love to hear what you think exactly.

Thank you everyone.

[brmill26]

JETA, these look fine to me as well. I'm used to seeing ISO1600 on my XTi, and in comparison these from the 1D at ISO6400 are actually significantly better (as they should be). The level of detail is amazing, and the noise isn't that high to me. I'd imagine they'd be fine for anything up through an 8x10 as long as there's not much cropping.

[dhyravy]

For these I would probably use a levels adjustment and a wee bit of unsharp mask. If you find the grain to be an issue, I like Noise Ninja and there are others out there. I have the "Pro" version which allows me to do batch processing. (really nice if you take a lot of shots:-) The "Auto Profile" works well and you could try the default settings then tweak from there. I created profiles for each of my cameras (the instructions to do this are included with the software) for all ISOs above 500.

[tadrscin]

I agree that these look quite nice. This is one of the biggest reasons I decided to suck it up and buy a MKIII. I'll be trying the 6400 out this Wednesday when I shoot some indoor soccer. Last time I shot with my 30D at ISO 3200 f2.8 and I had to underexpose 1 stop just to get 1/400. I'm expecting much better results this time. I think by the time they go through Noise Ninja, they'll look great.

[SmartWombat]

Impressive low noise, that looks like my 1DmkIIN at 400 iso.
When the £ gets back to a decent level to the $ I may persuade myself get one.
Right now belt-tightening means few photography bits ...

[Homer]

JETA, you know I shoot a lot of football and those night games are a big pain. I would love to shoot the night games without the flash and all the gear associated with that.

I think these look great SOOC. I also use a noise reduction program (NoiseWare) which I am very happy with. Something that may lessen your noise is to lower your shutter speed to 1/320 (this all depends on the field your shooting on) to slightly over expose your shot. You have less noise by having to darken you picture then you would by brightening it up a bit. This will give you a bit more blur on the extremities, but depending on the the shot that might add to it.

Bottom line, I think the two shots you posted look good as is and will do well with smaller prints. If a larger print was needed then I would deffinitly run it through something like Noise Nija or NoiseWare.

Jim

[ciddog91]

POTW... Congrats......

But I always love to see your work, it is always worth the look...

Nice Job....
Phil

[JETA]

POTW... Congrats......

But I always love to see your work, it is always worth the look...

Nice Job....
Phil

Oh my.... totally unedited.

[SmartWombat]

That's what I was so keen on, high ISO, real-world experience, and unedited.
It looks good.
You've sold me on 1D/DSmkIII - last weekend I was shooting a corporate event in a cave
Made me want the extra low noise performance, shooting by natural light at 1600 with the 1DmkIIN does not really work well enough for an A4 double spread or even an A4 cover.

[JETA]

You've sold me on 1D/DSmkIII -

Your wife may not be happy with me PAul.

Thanks for POTW. It's always an honor.

[brmill26]

Congrats, it's a good shot!