Spherical aberration: Correctable in software?

Is there software available that will allow you to correct for spherical aberration (SA) in a photo? I know Gimp will allow you to add "perspective" which will allow you to bend photos a little bit, but it only has "handles" at corners, and I'd like to add multiple adjustment handles to correct for the non-linear distortion that SA causes.

Any suggestions on what is out there, or if it SA can be corrected for, even just a little bit, in Gimp or other editing software?

There are tools in photoshop and Piant shop pro for barrel distortion if that is what your after.

Roger R.

Yes, it can. But it isn't a one-button fix (although it could be, if one was to take the time to tune the post-processing to the SA of a particular lens.)

Most lenses focus the incoming light rays to a single focal point. Spherical aberration is the result of the light rays at the edges of a lens being more tightly focused, resulting in the rays intersecting in a larger cross-section of space. The result is a somewhat blurry image, but it's not all bad. Spherical aberration can also improve the light-gathering capabilities of the lens, and can result in greater depth of field with less noise, particularly in low-light situations.

But because image sharpening is so content dependent, there really can't be any one technique that handles every situation. The only way I could see that happening is if you could somehow create a chip that would compensate for the specific aberration of a particular lens- a very specific in-camera sharpening, if you will.

Until that time, you are limited to the sharpening tools of whatever software you're using.

- Joe U.

OK, thanks. I figured PSP and APS would have the tools, but I don't have that software. Oh well, guess I'll just live with it.

EDIT: I did some further digging in Gimp and found it does have some correction filters built in. Probably not as easy to use as PSP/APS - but hey, they work and are free!

Yes there is specialized software for correcting lens and optical problems. The best or reference software comes from DxO in France.

http://www.dxo.com/us/photo/dxo_optics_pro

There are several tools buried in many software packages that allow you to build a profile of a lens/camera combination for such adjustments. Some of them are at best obscure and few cover the full gamut of problem.

Software that implments a parameterized Warp function is one of the better approaches to any spherical or similar problems. Usually shooting a test chart like a grid lets you set up a set of corrections that can then be applied to images from that lens. As long as you don't also have keystoning going on at the same time!

A lot of Panorama software, including that from camera vendors, has built in corrections based on focal length and you can choose between various end results. They can often be performed on just a single image and not have to result in a Pano blending.

With adjustment sliders and WYSIWYG it is often a moment or two of work to correct distortions to the point that they are no longer of any visual import. The corrections can sometimes however introduce other visual anomalies! So just don't fully expect miracles whether via one-button tuning or lots and lots of setup.

Do you have any examples of the problems you have experienced?

Sure, it's pretty much just distortion of the picture. Here's a sample with nice strong verticals, feel free to play with it.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j8...l/_mg_3307.jpg

All EXIF data is present.

wow, you've got all kinds of funky stuff going on in this one!

This took about 2 seconds to do. Could use another few minutes to get it perfect.

Roger R.

Looks better - what did you do?

John,

Where is this cathedral?

What did I do,
1. Made sure that the picture was vertical
2. Did a perspective transform and pulled out the top corners to get the pillars vertical
3. applied a touch of barrel distortion by pushing in the side a small amount to get all the pillars vertical.

Job done. All done in Photoshop Elements (PSE)

Roger R.

OK, thanks for the tip on what you did, I don't have PSE but I'll dig into Gimp and see if there's any way to accomplish the same thing.

The cathedral is Stephansdom (St. Stephens) in Vienna, I was visiting Vienna from the 27th-30th of last month, along with Paris, Prague and Bratislava over other days. Shot lots of terrible pics (learning how to use my new EF-S 18-200 IS lens - and finding its drawbacks) and a few good ones. I'll be throwing a few in the gallery after I sift out a couple of goodies.

The barrel distortion is caused by the new lens - I knew it was going to have some, but I wasn't terribly worried about it. When you have a shot of someplace like the inside of that cathedral with the very strong verticals that show the drawbacks of the lens, it can be a problem.

The majoriety of what Roger-readingr corrected was 'keystoning' and not a barrel or pincushion problem that is often associated with a spherical aberration in the lens. This problem is not a flaw in the lens.

At 18mm, or other wide focal length, the slightest tilt of the lens from parallel to a vertical or a slight side to side shift from a horizon will cause diverging/converging lines. This is frequently called keystoning. It can be readily corrected with basic software but usually you want to avoid it in the original photo, if possible. It is often unavoidable to get 'everything' in the photo so then it has to be 'fixed'.

There may be something else going on that is a lens distortion in the middle of the photo, but at this size it is not apparent or obvious.

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Originally Posted by drg

The majoriety of what Roger-readingr corrected was 'keystoning' and not a barrel or pincushion problem that is often associated with a spherical aberration in the lens. This problem is not a flaw in the lens.

At 18mm, or other wide focal length, the slightest tilt of the lens from parallel to a vertical or a slight side to side shift from a horizon will cause diverging/converging lines. This is frequently called keystoning. It can be readily corrected with basic software but usually you want to avoid it in the original photo, if possible. It is often unavoidable to get 'everything' in the photo so then it has to be 'fixed'.

There may be something else going on that is a lens distortion in the middle of the photo, but at this size it is not apparent or obvious.

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I understand keystoning, and can correct it quite handily with software I have installed - and I certainly do notice that in a lot of my photos there is plenty of that going on, seeing as I was looking up at buildings and sights along my tour. I don't mind the kyestoning so much as it is simply an effect of perspective and the lens type. It's the curvature that bugs me the most - say a scene that may have a lamp post, one can see that there is a definite radius that could be inferred from the bend of the post. The obvious answers would be to avoid or eliminate the post from the shot, but not so easily done if it's the edge of a building displaying the curvature and the building is the focus of the shot.

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Originally Posted by drg

The majoriety of what Roger-readingr corrected was 'keystoning' and not a barrel or pincushion problem that is often associated with a spherical aberration in the lens. This problem is not a flaw in the lens.

At 18mm, or other wide focal length, the slightest tilt of the lens from parallel to a vertical or a slight side to side shift from a horizon will cause diverging/converging lines. This is frequently called keystoning. It can be readily corrected with basic software but usually you want to avoid it in the original photo, if possible. It is often unavoidable to get 'everything' in the photo so then it has to be 'fixed'.

There may be something else going on that is a lens distortion in the middle of the photo, but at this size it is not apparent or obvious.

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drg,

The first part I corrected was keystoning and then found barrel distortion which I also corrected. There were two problems with the photo not one.

Roger R.

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Originally Posted by readingr

drg,

The first part I corrected was keystoning and then found barrel distortion which I also corrected. There were two problems with the photo not one.

Roger R.

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I should have looked at the larger version of the image, which I somehow missed clicking to make it expand. You are right there was a fairly significant amount of additional distortion besides the 'lean'.

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