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    Noobsauce KenB's Avatar
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    Image Management

    Curious as to how everyone is managing their images... from the initial download, through the selection process, PP, storage and archival, etc. What's your "system"?

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    Re: Image Management

    At the moment I am using ZoomBrowser with keywords and star ratings, using folders in year, month, date, and project folders where necessary, all are then stored on DVD, HDD, USB Disk...

    I am currently looking at lightroom as the future tool. Can't decide at the moment.

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    Re: Image Management

    Quote Originally Posted by readingr
    I am currently looking at lightroom as the future tool. Can't decide at the moment.
    Same here, that's what prompted my initial question.

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    Re: Image Management

    I'm still using Adobe Bridge for three main reasons:

    1) I have Adobe's creative Suite, and Bridge is an well-oiled link in that process

    2) Getting Lightroom would require upgrading my OS, and if I do that, I'll likely just get the Intel Mac. Other priorities have prevented that so far.

    3) I have several scripts written specifically for opening Bridge files in Photoshop that are terribly handy and that I would hate to give up.

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    Re: Image Management

    Lets see here if I can remember my process. I've done it so many times I don't even think about it.

    Short version is:
    CF Card -> Laptop -> Viewed through ACDSee Pro -> Batched by Nikon Capture -> Edited in PS CS2 -> Archived in 2 hard drives

    Long Version:

    1. While sitting in the car at stoplights on the way home (or if someone else is driving) I'll usually go through my cards in camera & delete any obvious OOF shots

    2. Download cards to the laptop or desktop using ACDSee Pro (both are setup the exact same way so the workflow is the same) For this I'll use my laptop. Cards are downloaded to a "Photos to Process" folder, then in folders by date like so: c:\Photos to Process/4.21.2007. The photos will stay there until I get a chance to work on them, so I know what's pending still.

    3. Go through each folder, and delete the bad ones. After I'm done deleting, I rename the images by date such as 2007-04-21-###. This way its easier for me (and my wife) to find them.

    4. If they can be batch processed, I COPY them to a different folder, start Nikon Capture, have it run the selected adjustments to the RAW photos and save them as jpegs into a "Processed" folder.

    5, Go through images processed through Nikon Capture, pull them into PS, Crop, and do whatever else is needed to get the image I want.

    6. Copy original RAW files & any PSD's that were created to a second internal harddrive, as well as an external firewire drive for storage. I'll soon be getting a second drive so I'll have another big backup. I also will copy some photos I know I really don't want to lose to my website for storage.
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    Re: Image Management

    Lightroom is now my RAW to JPEG conversion tool of choice.

    Then for sheer speed of viewing, ThumbsPlus to look at all my 1.5TB of images, even thumbnails of drives that aren't conneted to the PC.

    I haven't loaded all the images into Lightroom yet, because I'm waiting for the 2TB NAS to arrive ...
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    Re: Image Management

    Quote Originally Posted by KenB
    Curious as to how everyone is managing their images... from the initial download, through the selection process, PP, storage and archival, etc. What's your "system"?
    I use the workflow process and RAW conversions provided by Picture Window Pro 4.x. All editing is done there as well. RAW files are saved separately during the workflow as converted 48-bit TIFF files.

    The image browsing and slide show creation is handled by Breeze Browser Pro. The main photo libraries are on a harddrive attached to the desktop. There are two backups, one on each USB external drive. Not that I'm paranoid or anything...
    "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." --Mark Twain

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    Re: Image Management

    Quote Originally Posted by KenB
    Curious as to how everyone is managing their images... from the initial download, through the selection process, PP, storage and archival, etc. What's your "system"?
    You're asking for digital workflow management, not image management. Image management is the method/process of how you store your images, back them up, and find the one you're looking for.

    Ok...so maybe you're asking for some image management, but most of your question pertains to digital workflow.

    In terms of managing my images, I'm a fan of the client/server architecture. I like having a separate computer to store all my images on with multiple hard drives in a RAID. I also like to have images sorted by subject then event date.

    I am considering a look at Thumbs Plus Home Network Version, but that will have to wait until I get my Windows Server Longhorn beta (or Server 2003) box up and running.

    My workflow was pretty simple. I would start in Lightroom or Bridge, depending on what type of file I was working with, and I would do my edits in Photoshop. Afterwards, I would rename the file and saved to a processed image drive.
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    Re: Image Management

    Quote Originally Posted by KenB
    Curious as to how everyone is managing their images... from the initial download, through the selection process, PP, storage and archival, etc. What's your "system"?
    You're asking for digital workflow management, not image management. Image management is the method/process of how you store your images, back them up, and find the one you're looking for.

    Ok...so maybe you're asking for some image management, but most of your question pertains to digital workflow.

    In terms of managing my images, I'm a fan of the client/server architecture. I like having a separate computer to store all my images on with multiple hard drives in a RAID. I also like to have images sorted by subject then event date.

    I am considering a look at Thumbs Plus Home Network Version, but that will have to wait until I get my Windows Server Longhorn beta (or Server 2003) box up and running.

    My workflow was pretty simple. I would start in Lightroom or Bridge, depending on what type of file I was working with, and I would do my edits in Photoshop. Afterwards, I would rename the file and saved to a processed image drive.
    Sean Massey
    Massey Photography

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    Canon Digital Rebel XT (backup)
    Canon 70-200 f/2.8L
    Canon 50mm f/1.4
    Sigma 28-105 f/2.8-4.0
    Epson Stylus Photo R1800 Printer

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    Re: Image Management

    I have just installed a two terabyte RAID system (that's shedload of images) the ReadyNAS NV+
    Saw them at PMA and decided it was just what I needed.
    "Does what it says on the tin"

    Plug in, switch on, and it worked out of the box.
    - there goes my 2006 bonus !
    Configured two new shares: Pictures and Paul.
    That's it.

    I may use PC drives for speed, as even with a gigabit network Windows is so appallingly slow that it is only using 8% of the network bandwidth.

    But it's safer than using a USB drive, Just A Bunch Of Disks (JBOD) is exactly that, a pile of 200-300GB USB drives on a table next to my PC.
    While those are technically backups, and I have another backup on my CDs and DVDa burned on the laptop while in the field, I feel happier having it on a RAID.
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    Re: Image Management

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartWombat
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    I haven't loaded all the images into Lightroom yet, because I'm waiting for the 2TB NAS to arrive ...
    Hi SW,

    What NAS device are you getting? We can compare notes!

    thanks,
    Wes
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    Should have read a little more!

    i have the same system - did you go with 500G HD's? I have it set to back up my "working" files every night and it really is great. My old external drives were starting to make funny noises and I was getting nervous. It is a great way to get a RAID system.

    Thanks,
    Wes
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    Re: Image Management

    Like jorge I try to cut down on the obvious throw aways on-site or on the way home before the image gets out of the camera.

    If I shoot raw then I copy the images to file folder for this year/topic under a raw folder.

    Then I open up Nikon Capture and run a batch to save them all as Jpegs.

    Once I have them as Jpegs I use Bridge to view and apply any basic actions in a batch - auto contrast, levels, unsharp mask, etc.

    Then I use the image processor to resize the image for the web

    Copy them to the site and bob's your uncle - the customer is viewing a slideshow of the proofs.

    When they order I go back to the Raw file in Capture and refine it.

    This way I only have to do substantial work on the images the customer buys.

    I should get in the habit of renaming the files though

    I am also in the process of trying to work Lightroom into the work flow but that is taking some time.

    thanks,
    Wes
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