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wow I know i am not on here much and dont post much but jesus christ ronnoco. Your criticism is so bad. At least give something of a tip to the guy to help him out maybe next time. I have not seen one decent photo out of you on here. You tell us so much how you know a lot in the field of photography but it definitly does not show.
btw tuna i love the sulf portrait. Just trying to get a decent one is hard. You pulled this one off greatly. Your reflections are awsome.
wow I know i am not on here much and dont post much but jesus christ ronnoco. Your criticism is so bad. At least give something of a tip to the guy to help him out maybe next time. I have not seen one decent photo out of you on here. You tell us so much how you know a lot in the field of photography but it definitly does not show.
It is a critique forum, Ronnoco's opinion is necessary, and to the point, he's got some great stuff posted. Take the criticisms with a grain of salt, his posts, at first glance dont seem tactful, but on a level, they are right, he's pointing out the technical flaws, it's up to the poster to correct it if they agree. (On another note, technical flaws are necessary in this image)
On topic, this is a great self portrait, a little creepy, a little plaintive.
Artistic shots like this are hard to improve, and though some "rules" of photography were broken, they were broken well, they're more like suggestions anyway.
A tighter crop would, in a way be beneficial, taking away some of the negative space and distractions, but these also add to the sense of isolation suggested in the image.
It is a critique forum, Ronnoco's opinion is necessary, and to the point, he's got some great stuff posted. Take the criticisms with a grain of salt, his posts, at first glance dont seem tactful, but on a level, they are right, he's pointing out the technical flaws, it's up to the poster to correct it if they agree. (On another note, technical flaws are necessary in this image)
On topic, this is a great self portrait, a little creepy, a little plaintive.
Artistic shots like this are hard to improve, and though some "rules" of photography were broken, they were broken well, they're more like suggestions anyway.
A tighter crop would, in a way be beneficial, taking away some of the negative space and distractions, but these also add to the sense of isolation suggested in the image.
Thank you for your critique. This image also appealed to me due to the overabundance of flaws - some of which I could have removed or fixed in post-processing but left in place.
wow I know i am not on here much and dont post much but jesus christ ronnoco. Your criticism is so bad. At least give something of a tip to the guy to help him out maybe next time. I have not seen one decent photo out of you on here. You tell us so much how you know a lot in the field of photography but it definitly does not show.
btw tuna i love the sulf portrait. Just trying to get a decent one is hard. You pulled this one off greatly. Your reflections are awsome.
Thank you - I'm glad you liked the reflection and it's effect.
Way too many visual distractions combined with too much negative space!
Ronnoco
I can't disagree with this, but I think they work.
I mean Tuna could be commenting on his life or life in general, with the use of the disctractions and large negative space.
You look at his expression and he kind of looks to be at his wits end.
I think this is the most revealing photograph Tuna has ever posted, it's dark but it does reveal a lot about Tuna.
Bravo to you Tuna for doing such a revealing self portrait!
You know Tuna, it's hard to believe you have only made 757 comments, I swear you have way more than that!
Brian
“A great photograph is one that fully expresses what one feels, in the deepest sense, about what is being photographed, and is, thereby, a true manifestation of what one feels about life in its entirety...” - Ansel Adams
I can't disagree with this, but I think they work.
I mean Tuna could be commenting on his life or life in general, with the use of the disctractions and large negative space.
You look at his expression and he kind of looks to be at his wits end.
I think this is the most revealing photograph Tuna has ever posted, it's dark but it does reveal a lot about Tuna.
Bravo to you Tuna for doing such a revealing self portrait!
You know Tuna, it's hard to believe you have only made 757 comments, I swear you have way more than that!
Brian
Thank you for your comments - It's nice to know that this image reveals me more to you than my other SP's - maybe having held the camera away and looking into the lens had something to do with that.
Tuna,,with me the jury is still out on this one..I find the image a tad confusing but I can't stop looking at it..You have included so many elements which at times work together then other times don't..
This image holds my attention on sheer impact only not on technical perfection...I would rather view an image with impact than a boring image that is technically perfect..
Jurgen
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Tuna,,with me the jury is still out on this one..I find the image a tad confusing but I can't stop looking at it..You have included so many elements which at times work together then other times don't..
This image holds my attention on sheer impact only not on technical perfection...I would rather view an image with impact than a boring image that is technically perfect..
Jurgen
I have to fully agree with your last comment - I'm glad that the image held your attention - thank you for your comments and critique.
Tuna, you have pulled this off very well. Having viewed your photography for a number of years now, this looks just like a self- portrait I would expect/want to see from you. I do remeber at least one other in the past that was a reflection off a building?. . .also superb as i recall. I like the gritty look about this, and what also keeps me looking at this is the scene on the train in the bg. The passengers slumped in their seats from what looks to have been a long ride. I might suggest burning or cloning abit the bright spot i the center, but not a must. Nice work
I don't know what makes good photography from bad photography, I just know what I like. And I like this. It makes me look long, longer, longer.... The face half covered by the scene of the train car is really great; the shifting light...it's just a great photo. Thanks for posting.
I don't know what makes good photography from bad photography, I just know what I like. And I like this. It makes me look long, longer, longer.... The face half covered by the scene of the train car is really great; the shifting light...it's just a great photo. Thanks for posting.
CF
Thank you for your comments. I am always in search of interesting light...
Tuna, you have pulled this off very well. Having viewed your photography for a number of years now, this looks just like a self- portrait I would expect/want to see from you. I do remeber at least one other in the past that was a reflection off a building?. . .also superb as i recall. I like the gritty look about this, and what also keeps me looking at this is the scene on the train in the bg. The passengers slumped in their seats from what looks to have been a long ride. I might suggest burning or cloning abit the bright spot i the center, but not a must. Nice work
Hi Gary. It's always a pleasure to hear your views and critique. The scene of the train and riders is actually in front of me, through the glass in which I am reflecting - I'm not sure if that was a bit confusing to many.
I also wondered about the white spot but left it as another supporting flaw - however removing it may work just as well or better...
Definitely artistic... Shots like this would not benefit from application of rules, etc. I think the distractions are part of what makes the shot an artistic shot. It also makes one think. I only wish you weren't starring straight at the camera like this, but more off into the distance, for that seems like what people do on trains (or subways).
-GB
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Definitely artistic... Shots like this would not benefit from application of rules, etc. I think the distractions are part of what makes the shot an artistic shot. It also makes one think. I only wish you weren't starring straight at the camera like this, but more off into the distance, for that seems like what people do on trains (or subways).
-GB
Hi GB1
But I feel Tuna is actually staring straight ahead. The illusion is created in the reflection. It almost creates the illusion that Tuna did not take the photograph
But therein lies the mysteries of this wonderful photograph.
Tom
I have a total lack of respect for anything connected with society, except that which makes the roads safer, the beer stronger, the food cheaper, and the old men and old women warmer in the winter and happier in the summer. Brendan Behan
Definitely artistic... Shots like this would not benefit from application of rules, etc. I think the distractions are part of what makes the shot an artistic shot. It also makes one think. I only wish you weren't starring straight at the camera like this, but more off into the distance, for that seems like what people do on trains (or subways).
-GB
Thank you for your comments. Looking away as you suggest may indeed have added a different element or feel to the image...
The avoidance of photographic cliche is not easy at the best of times but Tuna seems to manage it with ease.
I also remember the one Gary is referring to; the reflection in the glass doors, the long black coat. These images stay with you.
Shooting in these conditions is not about technically perfect results but more about an interesting and original outcome and I think it is all here.
I don't see any negative space in this picture at all.
CF mentioned the half covered face which I too feel is great; Gary mentioned the bright spot as not being a problem and I agree with both. If I came up with a shot like this I would not be wondering what f-stop was it I used.
What some critics consider imperfections others would consider them to be assets and I often fall in with the latter camp.
We all see things in different ways but I would respectfully ask Ronnoco not to insult the photographer with the pretentious, hit and run dismissive tone of "critique" which you choose to favour.
Tom
I have a total lack of respect for anything connected with society, except that which makes the roads safer, the beer stronger, the food cheaper, and the old men and old women warmer in the winter and happier in the summer. Brendan Behan
The avoidance of photographic cliche is not easy at the best of times but Tuna seems to manage it with ease.
I also remember the one Gary is referring to; the reflection in the glass doors, the long black coat. These images stay with you.
Shooting in these conditions is not about technically perfect results but more about an interesting and original outcome and I think it is all here.
I don't see any negative space in this picture at all.
CF mentioned the half covered face which I too feel is great; Gary mentioned the bright spot as not being a problem and I agree with both. If I came up with a shot like this I would not be wondering what f-stop was it I used.
What some critics consider imperfections others would consider them to be assets and I often fall in with the latter camp.
We all see things in different ways but I would respectfully ask Ronnoco not to insult the photographer with the pretentious, hit and run dismissive tone of "critique" which you choose to favour.
Tom
Tom, you have always been one of my best critics - telling me when I have wandered or missed as well as letting me know when I might have hit the mark. It is always appreciated - I'm glad you liked this one.
I think it's great. To me, the visual distractions and negative space help tell the story.
Reading this thread, I'm reminded of a quote that my trumpet teacher told me in a lesson back in college. He said it was a Charlie Parker quote, but I never looked into affirming that because it was irrelevant. The quote was "Learn your horn, learn your scales, then forget both and just play." I think it applies to photography well.
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Well it is easy for me to see whay an enexperienced eye might judge this image bad without much thought, but for someone that knows his stuff, I can say, DAMN, that's awesome. The crafty use of negative space and the people who to the left really set the tone of this picture. I know how hard it is to get even a barely decent shot in this sort of situation, yet you, of course, have done it very well.
You are still my favorite photographer!
John Cowan
Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.
~Ernest Hemingway~
Well it is easy for me to see whay an enexperienced eye might judge this image bad without much thought, but for someone that knows his stuff, I can say, DAMN, that's awesome. The crafty use of negative space and the people who to the left really set the tone of this picture. I know how hard it is to get even a barely decent shot in this sort of situation, yet you, of course, have done it very well.
You are still my favorite photographer!
Your over-generous words are humbling - I'm glad you liked this one.
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