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    Re: Red

    My compliments (once again) on this one. Beautiful shot.

    Manual focus?

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    Re: Red

    My only thought is that I wish the top of her head wasn't touching the window sill.
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    Re: Red

    Quote Originally Posted by draymorton
    My compliments (once again) on this one. Beautiful shot.

    Manual focus?
    Yes, Voigtlander lens on the MP. I was matching her pace as I took this shot and I believe we are seeing a panning effect with the background (and her legs...) having a bit of motion blur while she is more in tandem (thus more in focus) with the movement of me and my lens.

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    Re: Red

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog
    My only thought is that I wish the top of her head wasn't touching the window sill.
    This was your only thought? I thought of many other things...

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    Re: Red

    This has a very nice "feel" to it.
    I particularly like the mimicry of colors throughout:
    wall/skin,
    hair/dress/shoes,
    sweater/sidewalk,
    bag/windows.
    The high contrast works quite well too.

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    Re: Red

    I like the colors here, and the subject matter, along with the panning effect and the slight motion blur with her legs. I would have liked to see a more perpendicular camera angle.

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    Re: Red

    I like the fact that the background is just slightly blurred, I thought maybe you had done this in processing. I agree with Dray this is beautiful. The desaturated colors of the wall against the dress shoes and hair.
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    Re: Red

    Is this the girl that the man in Rainy Night said goodbye to. I think this has a bit of a seedy feel to it. Actually Frogs comment makes some sense as her head looks a flat at the top underneath the sill.
    But it is such an attractive picture to look at and the buildings and space around the woman demand our attention too. It inspires me, as most of your work does, to get out and into the street; it could be one of the very few places left that can guarantee a constant and interesting supply of original image possibilities..
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    Re: Red

    I was going to ask if this was candid, or a model.
    Nicely done, and I agree with the head and window sill alignment comment.
    I had many thoughts ...
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    Re: Red

    Oui?


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    Re: Red

    I agree about the window sill. If she were in between the two windows, it would look more natural. But I like how her color jumps out from the background.

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    Re: Red

    At first I thought I had criticism, but after looking at it for a short time...Phenomenal...Great Job!!
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    "You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus".
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    Re: Red

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuna
    This was your only thought? I thought of many other things...
    Well, not really, but it is the only one I cared to express.
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    Re: Red

    The second is much better, imo. I didn't post as I'm predisposed to not liking selective color/editing, but her head blending into the sill was a big problem to an otherwise great photo. The other problem is the timing of her stride. I'm ok with the motion blur, but it seems like the position of her legs are awkward and don't add much. Say if you caught her at the "apex"(?) of her stride, it could show she's in a hurry or not walking fast, etc. Apparently this bothers other people a lot less than it bothers me, though.

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    Re: Red

    I didn't know you was a hair dresser as well. LOL. I like the edit, but nothing wrong with the original. Great work and processing on both.
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    Re: Red

    Quote Originally Posted by caleb
    The second is much better, imo. I didn't post as I'm predisposed to not liking selective color/editing, but her head blending into the sill was a big problem to an otherwise great photo. The other problem is the timing of her stride. I'm ok with the motion blur, but it seems like the position of her legs are awkward and don't add much. Say if you caught her at the "apex"(?) of her stride, it could show she's in a hurry or not walking fast, etc. Apparently this bothers other people a lot less than it bothers me, though.
    Caleb, thank you for your comment. I understand what you are saying but your critique regarding the legs indicates to me that maybe you don't shoot much street. As I indicated above, this was captured, literally, on the run. Setting up and anticipating subject placement wasn't a priority - the capture was. If everything else were to have fallen into place that would have been great but it would have been pure luck. In a capture like this, it would be impossible to control all the elements. I have many that don't make the cut at all but this one had a lot going for it - a redhead wearing red shoes and a red dress, walking along a muted backdrop to contrast against, a sharp capture of her frontal profile, the enhanced folds and curves of her dress throughout, the blur of her legs giving a sense of real movement. There is, for me, plenty. Though you, both individually or collectively as a group of critiquers, may ask for more - I couldn't. Having said all that, the suggestion to fix the head area ended in a very nice improvement to the image!

    Caleb, to sate your need, here are some examples of what you were wishing for in this image but didn't get - where I was able to set and anticipate...






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    Caleb, thank you for your comment. I understand what you are saying but your critique regarding the legs indicates to me that maybe you don't shoot much street. As I indicated above, this was captured, literally, on the run. Setting up and anticipating subject placement wasn't a priority - the capture was. If everything else were to have fallen into place that would have been great but it would have been pure luck. In a capture like this, it would be impossible to control all the elements. I have many that don't make the cut at all but this one had a lot going for it - a redhead wearing red shoes and a red dress, walking along a muted backdrop to contrast against, a sharp capture of her frontal profile, the enhanced folds and curves of her dress throughout, the blur of her legs giving a sense of real movement. There is, for me, plenty. Though you, both individually or collectively as a group of critiquers, may ask for more - I couldn't. Having said all that, the suggestion to fix the head area ended in a very nice improvement to the image!
    Please don't take my critique as attacking or judging, you have some of the best street photos I've ever seen. I tried street photography twice (almost a full year ago now) and it's not easy and I can't imagine framing or setting up shots as well as you do. I think it's a fantastic photo although I felt that I'd nitpick at it a little - more for conversation or discussion than anything else.

    edit/ By finding things that would ideally be different in photos, I learn a lot. It's much easier for me to look at other people's shots, find something "wrong" and apply what I've learned in my own shots.

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    Re: Red

    Quote Originally Posted by caleb
    Please don't take my critique as attacking or judging, you have some of the best street photos I've ever seen. I tried street photography twice (almost a full year ago now) and it's not easy and I can't imagine framing or setting up shots as well as you do. I think it's a fantastic photo although I felt that I'd nitpick at it a little - more for conversation or discussion than anything else.

    edit/ By finding things that would ideally be different in photos, I learn a lot. It's much easier for me to look at other people's shots, find something "wrong" and apply what I've learned in my own shots.
    Caleb, I certainly didn't feel you were attacking me and you are more than welcome to judge me...I do get where you are coming from - catching her in an aggressive full stride would have been nice but we have what we have...if only it were as easy to fix as the head.

    Tuna

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    Re: Red

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuna
    There is, for me, plenty.
    There would be for most people.

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