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    Moderator losing objectivity

    Re: Creativity or rules_standards

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    Ronnoco, you have turned what should be a simple debate or constructive dialogue into a mud slinging fest, with you throwing much of the mud. You have even taken shots at me in post #48, unprovoked. My comments and opinions are my own, I stand by them, and so there is no need to defend them. They are simply how I feel and you can agree or disagree. I find myself in disagreement with much of what you critique, and I'm sure it goes vice-versa.
    Please find it within yourself to be more tactful and less offensive in your dialogue with the members here.
    btw, Leels did not claim that you used a"million filters" if you re read what was written.
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    Gary, you have lost it!

    On the contrary, I have simply reacted to the mud that has been slung at me. I did NOT take shots at you as you well know, so please stop the spin. I pointed out that measuring the gravestone on the ground revealed NO cyan cast and looked white in the image. Can't you accept a contrary finding? Did you take a measurement of the white gravestone on the ground?

    Your opinions may well be your own, but if they are strictly opinions and you cannot accept the fact that after checking things out, I have found a disparity with your opinion, then perhaps you should take another look at the photo and perhaps reconsider your
    "opinion". I have no opinion. I am simply looking closely at the photo and checking with a variety of software to see if the criticism is valid, relevant, and correctable. I stand by my findings but it is not at all personal or based on opinion. It is based on what my monitor and several programs, histograms etc. show.

    If your comments are simply based on how you feel, then you don't understand photographic criticism and perhaps that is due to your artistic and emotional background.
    Photography is both artistic and highly technical. I have a background in both and have been involved in both since before you were born. You are too new to the area to adopt an emotional attitude to someone who questions your "feelings", when feelings and opinions should have nothing to do with Photographic Critique.

    If you had had more experience with Photographic Critique in a professional venue, you would realize that it is NEVER TACTFUL. The effort of all judges is to be as accurate as possible, to judge solely on technique and composition and to leave personal "feelings" and "opinions" totally out of the picture.

    And yes, I did read what Leels wrote and he did mention and imply that I used a "million filters" which was rather silly as I indicated considering I just used ONE. (By the way, are you suggesting that Leels was being "tactful" and "constructive" as you seem to wish, because if you are, then your "feelings" make NO logical sense whatsoever.) I am the one that should be offended.

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    Re: Moderator losing objectivity

    Com'on guys, give it a rest.

    Ronnoco, just remember, perception is reality. There is no such thing as a completely objective opinion, esp in the field of art. Technical more so, where can you can just ask "does the &#^$# thing work or not?" Can't do that with art.
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    Re: Moderator losing objectivity

    Get a grip buddy.

    Also stop mentioning my name. Everything I had to say I said there. Go back and re-read if you like.

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    Re: Moderator losing objectivity

    Ronnoco, when you respond to members in the condescending manner in which you do, they will respond to you the same. It is no coincidence that you seem to get into these tit-for-tats with many here.

    Also, I clearly stated that your comments were in post #48, but as I see you do every so often, you "conveniently" mis read. Anyone who has read the thread up to the end can see what you are up to here.
    Do not hold it against others who are looking beyond the "rules" and "guidelines" to explore deeper into the realms of expression and creativity.
    Objectivity and subjectivity both play in the observations of critiquing art/photography. Neither of which I have "lost." The only thing I have lost is time spent with you going around in circles over the same nonsense.
    Once again . . .sigh. . .please take into consideration the manner in which you address the other members here, and remember. . .we all don't have to agree but we can all get along.
    Carry on.
    please do not edit and repost my photos


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