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    It's all a blur

    Does it work?


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    Re: It's all a blur

    I think so. Was the blur Photo-shopped in or was it taken this way?
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    Re: It's all a blur

    Not for me. If just the wrestlers were blurry and the spectators in focus, then it would.
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    Re: It's all a blur

    it defenently works for me. although it would be a tad better if you had more of their faces, i suggest you go reshoot (jk) :-P
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    Re: It's all a blur

    The motion is great. Very powerful image.

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    Good point.

    Quote Originally Posted by mn shutterbug
    Not for me. If just the wrestlers were blurry and the spectators in focus, then it would.
    The wrestlers make for a very powerful visual but the blurred background is a problem. Maybe if you darkened or lightened the background a lot that would reduce the distraction.
    No, I DON'T need that.

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    Re: It's all a blur

    Does it work?
    No.
    Because the background is blurred it looks like a case of bad camera shake.

    I would far prefer to see real motion blur than photochopped blur.
    Or at least realistic blur.
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    Re: It's all a blur

    I personally think that the blurred background helps me focus on the point of interest better. I like to few bits of focus in the faces and the action that the whole thing portrays.

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    Re: It's all a blur

    Quote Originally Posted by metallicblack
    I think so. Was the blur Photo-shopped in or was it taken this way?
    Yes, it was with photoshop. I don't know how it could be taken that way...at least not with my skills :blush2: Imagine doing a pan shot on somebody who stands up from a sitting position. I think it would be difficult. I think it's difficult to achieve that kind of effect you'd see in a panned racing car shot.

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    Re: It's all a blur

    Quote Originally Posted by mn shutterbug
    Not for me. If just the wrestlers were blurry and the spectators in focus, then it would.
    I have photos with the players blurry. And I was told they are not good because of that very reason.

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    Re: It's all a blur

    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan8i
    it defenently works for me. although it would be a tad better if you had more of their faces, i suggest you go reshoot (jk) :-P
    Nice suggestion

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    Re: Good point.

    Quote Originally Posted by MB1
    The wrestlers make for a very powerful visual but the blurred background is a problem. Maybe if you darkened or lightened the background a lot that would reduce the distraction.
    Something like this ?


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    Re: It's all a blur

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartWombat
    Does it work?
    No.
    Because the background is blurred it looks like a case of bad camera shake.
    But what about those pan shots we see in car racing photos, for example?

    I would far prefer to see real motion blur than photochopped blur.
    Or at least realistic blur.
    Fair enough.

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    Re: It's all a blur

    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter Tiff
    I personally think that the blurred background helps me focus on the point of interest better. I like to few bits of focus in the faces and the action that the whole thing portrays.
    Thank you!

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    Re: It's all a blur

    What I want to do is to get some sense of motion in the photo. So far I think an effect like a pan shot could help. Panning is certainly doable and has been done infinite number of times in car racing photos, for example. But with photos of a Judo throw, a wrestling takedown, or a boxer throwing a punch? I don't think I can do it with my skill level :blush2: Freezing the motion in those spots is quite easy. But what if I want something more? That's why I try photoshop.

    Apparently, the result seems to work for some and not for others

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    Re: It's all a blur

    I think these photos are awesome. Good composition, good color saturation and very natural White Balance. I really get a sense of movement and feel like I'm close to the action. IMO, the PS blur is very believable and works for me (sure, if I look close enough and think about it long enough, there may be some inconsistencies). If the background was in focus, it would be distracting. Both shots are excellent however, I prefer the last one you posted because of the position of the arms and legs. Nice job!

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    Re: It's all a blur

    Quote Originally Posted by AgingEyes
    But what about those pan shots we see in car racing photos, for example?
    Fair point.
    There the subject is moving and you have panned with it.
    The background blur and the foreground sharpness match.

    I see a mismatch between the action and the blur and sharp areas of the image that makes my eyes hurt, literally it gives me a haadache !


    What you've done with what appears to be a diagonal blur is given the impression that the axis of the camera projected onto the background was moving at about 8" in maybe 1/125 second, but their heads were still.
    I'm sure their heads would fall off is that was the case.

    The second one is almost possible if you'd used a slow shutter speed and flash to stop the motion. Except you have blur before and after the flash (or to left and righ tof the sharp image) while most SLRs have either 1st curtain or 2nd curtain sync (I can't say all).

    It doesn't work for me.
    Yet.

    Definitely there is a possibility to do it in photoshop, it can work.
    But I think it's easily overdone, and hard to apply so it's not disturbing.
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    Re: It's all a blur

    i like both a lot, very dynamic. the blur does not bother me at all! i really enjoy watching both photos.

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    Re: It's all a blur

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartWombat
    I see a mismatch between the action and the blur and sharp areas of the image that makes my eyes hurt, literally it gives me a haadache !
    I can see that

    What you've done with what appears to be a diagonal blur...
    It was an attempt to match the angle of falling.

    The second one is almost possible if you'd used a slow shutter speed and flash to stop the motion. Except you have blur before and after the flash (or to left and righ tof the sharp image) while most SLRs have either 1st curtain or 2nd curtain sync (I can't say all).

    It doesn't work for me.
    Yet
    Aaah...I think you're looking it from a realistic, whether-it's-technically-possible point of view

    Definitely there is a possibility to do it in photoshop, it can work.
    But I think it's easily overdone, and hard to apply so it's not disturbing.
    I can agree to the easily-overdone part.

    Personally I think though, a photo like what I've shown, is no longer mainly for truly reporting an event. It becomes...it's like those action scenes, fight scenes that you see in the comic books In a way, I think it's not much different from enhancing the colors of a photo regardless of what the subject matter actually looks like in the real world at the time the photo was taken, or even, for some, turning a photo into a painting

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