Grace Cathedral

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  • 08-14-2009, 02:40 PM
    PrevailingConditions
    Grace Cathedral
    Here's one from inside Grace Cathedral in downtown San Francisco. The lighting was pretty tricky with the bright light from the windows and the dark interior so this is a composite of two different exposures. Does it work? Too obvious?

    Thoughts?

    PC

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2438/...cde922a8_o.jpg
  • 08-14-2009, 02:46 PM
    Ridgetop
    Re: Grace Cathedral
    I have to throw in my usual caveat that the color on my laptop stinks, but otherwise I don't think this composite is too much at all. Some of the best composites and HDRs I've seen recently have been the inside of old churches and buildings, and like those this one seems to work. I like the shot but wouldn't have minded seeing more of the alter area below the windows, but nice grab on the ceiling. Could you have still grabbed the ceiling from a lower to the ground shot or was it too large in there to get it all in one shot? Like you, I would have wanted to grab that great ceiling so probably would have done the same thing if I couldn't get the alter in the shot also.
  • 08-14-2009, 04:30 PM
    Greg McCary
    Re: Grace Cathedral
    I think the exposure is great. I wish you had a little more at the bottom though. It looks as though something is missing.
  • 08-14-2009, 05:10 PM
    Frog
    Re: Grace Cathedral
    I'm with Greg on this.
    Exposure is nice.....needs more at bottom. Maybe you were at your lenses limit from where you could shoot.
  • 08-14-2009, 05:14 PM
    gahspidy
    Re: Grace Cathedral
    This is no doubt a beautiful and elegant image. The exposure is right on with your mix, but I really prefer to have more darness inside to contrast with the lighting from the windows. I think the "being inside" mood is gone, but no doubt there was gains in other areas such as the wonderful detail and delightful tones and color throughout.
    I agree about wanting more bottom, but then again it does not hurt as it is.
    Just a nitpik. . .curious to see this with a bit more warmth and less pink/magenta throughout.
    Excellent work here, PC
  • 08-15-2009, 07:33 PM
    PrevailingConditions
    Re: Grace Cathedral
    Gary, Frog, Greg, & Ridgetop,

    Thanks for commenting. I see what you're saying about having a little more at the bottom. I'm guessing that having just the tops of the organ pipes leads one to wonder what's below. The alter isn't directly below this area, it's actually separated a bit. At the same time, keeping the same relative framing would mean less of the ceiling, and I really liked that part. This was taken from the back of the chapel with a longer lens and I could have gone wider, but it would also have included more on the sides.

    Gary, I also see what you're saying about the coloring, but the pink/magenta is really from the stained glass windows. I can try adjusting the white balance to see what I can come up with, but I think it's fairly close as-is.

    Thanks again for looking and commenting.

    PC

    PS - Here's one more from this same building.
    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2528/...bd6cdc8b_o.jpg
  • 08-15-2009, 07:57 PM
    jetrim
    Re: Grace Cathedral
    Both of these are phenomenal. If it were me, I think I'd try to get the white balance on the first closer to that of the second, but the HDR works perfectly. On the second shot I believe I'd crop the bottom up to the point where the basket on the foreground table is removed. This would leave the shot finishing with a sliver of floor below the alter, the very tops of the pews, and the plinths (bases) of the forward most columns resting intact on the very bottom of the print.

    VERY impressive work though :thumbsup:
  • 08-15-2009, 08:04 PM
    snoid
    Re: Grace Cathedral
    I like them both.
    Great detail throughout.
    I can see how tweaking WB would be a problem.
  • 08-16-2009, 11:26 AM
    PrevailingConditions
    Re: Grace Cathedral
    Thanks jetrim & snoid. I appreciate the feedback. I have printed both of these and I really like how they turned out.

    PC
  • 08-16-2009, 01:57 PM
    Frog
    Re: Grace Cathedral
    I actually like the second better.
    If you're up to a bit of work then you could try stitching a pano togheter to get the top and bottom together.
    What is the black on top and bottom of second shot from?
  • 08-16-2009, 07:07 PM
    LeeIs
    Re: Grace Cathedral
    I had the same thoughts about the first one, mainly that it felt a bit cut off from the bottom. The 2nd one u posted is a lot more appealing to me. It has all the great detail and lighting and has a really nice foreground to it as well. nicely done!