Deb

[GB1]

Recent shot of Debbie, a model. I've made several adjustments to this image - here are two.

Which do you prefer, if either? Shot on Fuji Reala film. C&C are welcome.

GB

[livin4lax09]

that hotspot on the left really bothers me.... I think the first adjustment is better, but with that hotspot, it really detracts from the model.

[MB1]

I'd like to see her eyes in that image but I can see why you just went with the smile.

The whole color/cast is a little washed out and cold for me. Did you use (or think about using) a fill flash or a reflector?

[ZL4life]

i like the first one better, the hot spot isn't as over powering.
Are you going for a carefree-light feeling with the washed out back ground. i kinda get that, if you are.

what camera are you using?

[gahspidy]

I would prefer the 1st as well, there seems to be more pop to the truck and just an overall clearer looking version. I agree the bright area on the left is unsettling, but may have been ok if it were balanced a little more with some fill on the lower legs and truck area. I am also wanting to see her eyes in this set up. I feel it looks awkward with just her mouth showing. I do like the framing, pose , and overall idea you went for here.

[GB1]

Brent, MB1, yeah the sun was behind her on this one. Z, we used a lot of reflectors on the shoot, but not on this shot.. Someone was going to help with those but had to cancel... really a pain to set those up and shoot at the same time :cryin:

This is just one of several shots that came out Ok. Will post some more later, but here's a edited version of one,

[GB1]

Gary - Thks for commenting! I'm not totally with you guys on the hot spot... I think they sometimes add some pizazz. But at the same time, it does make the critical areas of the model like face, hair, etc. silhouetted, which isn't good. I have many more shots with her eyes (which I will scan and post)... this one was different because the wind was blowing her hat off and I liked the spontaneity, even at the expense of he being so dark. Next time I have someone turn the truck around

GB

[MB1]

.........This is just one of several shots that came out Ok. Will post some more later, but here's a edited version of one,

I like the way the truck and the sky and even the model turned out.

Good work.

[ravenmore]

Brent, MB1, yeah the sun was behind her on this one. Z, we used a lot of reflectors on the shoot, but not on this shot.. Someone was going to help with those but had to cancel... really a pain to set those up and shoot at the same time :cryin:

This is just one of several shots that came out Ok. Will post some more later, but here's a edited version of one,

I like this shot - it looks more like an illustration than a photograph. Can I ask what you did to it to get this result?

[F-15_Flyer]

Brent, MB1, yeah the sun was behind her on this one. Z, we used a lot of reflectors on the shoot, but not on this shot.. Someone was going to help with those but had to cancel... really a pain to set those up and shoot at the same time :cryin:

This is just one of several shots that came out Ok. Will post some more later, but here's a edited version of one,

That's really cool, how'd you do that?

[GB1]

MB, Raven, F-15 -- It's called Local Equalization in Corel PhotoPaint Version X3. It has adjustments, but I found the default setting pretty close to ideal.

I have PhotoPaint 10 here at work and tried it on the lower image, plus smoothed it a little. Interesting though not quite as good as the other one. Maybe X3 has improved this function or the pic lent itself to it better?

You could blow a whole weekend playing with this stuff..........!

[F-15_Flyer]

Seems pretty neat, It doesn't really work for that one ^^, but the first one it definetely does.

[mondo1090]

intresting, seems to work well in some shots

[GB1]

Yep, seems to work well with some shots and not others. I masked off the background first and then added a Radial Blur effect to it here. Don't know if it works or not, but does add give the illusion of motion.

Also, here is the original for that second posting.

[livin4lax09]

very cool processing on that second shot. Have you seen davehillphoto.com? it reminds me of his PP work.

[GB1]

very cool processing on that second shot. Have you seen davehillphoto.com? it reminds me of his PP work.

Thanks for the info. I checked out Dave's site: You're right, there's something going on with those photos. Not 100 percent sure it is digital manipulation though... he could be using sort of lighting technique that creates that effect.

I don't think he's using it, but I recall a technique where you can underexpose a shot by say 1 f-stop and then use a flash with with the film speed set to 1/2 it's true speed. That causes an effect where the object(s) within range of the flash come out with the proper exposure but the background comes out darker. I need to try this sometime - sounds fun.

[drg]

Thanks for the info. I checked out Dave's site: You're right, there's something going on with those photos. Not 100 percent sure it is digital manipulation though... he could be using sort of lighting technique that creates that effect.

I don't think he's using it, but I recall a technique where you can underexpose a shot by say 1 f-stop and then use a flash with with the film speed set to 1/2 it's true speed. That causes an effect where the object(s) within range of the flash come out with the proper exposure but the background comes out darker. I need to try this sometime - sounds fun.

I like that kind of illustrative photographer from the davehill site. It definitly is digital manipulation or some unreal amount of time in the darkroom. I don't think anybody is doing that amount of wet work or has for decades.

The effect can be closely simulated by applying a a metallic filter and one of the crayon type color sets. The 'trick' is going to be tweaking the process until it comes out the way you want!

Metallic filters are nothing more than curve adjustments that have many notches in them to create regions of high contrast.

Crayon type colors are gradients where all colors are remapped or replaced by a fixed number of tonal controlled colors.

This is usually done with a customized set of actions for each photo that may have dozens of steps for each photo.

Back to GB1's photos!!

I made some comments in the Spot Color Experiment post, and what you are describing with setting the exposure differently is one of the techniques for using fill flash or any combination of front/back lighting. There is some expermentation required for each film emulsion you may use as light combos (sun and strobe) may cause undesirable color shifts. It is an effect at the opposite end of the spectrum from reciprocity failures at long exposure. Same problem with the halide chemistry, but too much light as opposed to not enough.