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    At church (in black & white)

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    Re: At church (in black & white)

    Manacsa,

    Not sure what to make of this... It's interesting that the kid is sitting in the back, possibly watching the action w/o anyone knowing he's there. But, I think it sort of suffers a little bit of an empty feeling, like there's no one else in the church. More action would make it better I think. The area around him isnt as super interesting, probably cause of those blocked-out windows. What was the shutter speed? It is a little soft in focus, but considering that you couldnt set up a tripod... understandable. Perhaps if you could have shot it wide open to try to get an acceptable SS and then focused directly on him, that would have been the best option. Or you could sharpen it up in PS.

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    Re: At church (in black & white)

    Thanks for the comment GB. Here's the exif the shot. I can do pretty well on 1/30 most of the time handheld. Maybe not this time. Aperture was wide open and I did use USM in PS. I was drawn to this shot with all the shapes and lines surrounding the boy.


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    Re: At church (in black & white)

    Interesting shot, I do think it needs a bit of sharpening. You might try to burn in some detail in the windows as well. The small size of the boy really emphasizes his loneliness. Good composition.

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    Re: At church (in black & white)

    I think its an interesting shot but could have been improved if the boy was in focus.

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    Re: At church (in black & white)

    Quote Originally Posted by realworld
    I think its an interesting shot but could have been improved if the boy was in focus.
    The soft focus doesn't add any "eariness" to the shot?.......no?.....okay.

    Thanks for the comment.
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    Re: At church (in black & white)

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Schaeffer
    Interesting shot, I do think it needs a bit of sharpening. You might try to burn in some detail in the windows as well. The small size of the boy really emphasizes his loneliness. Good composition.
    Thanks for the comment Don. The most recent SHUTTERBUG mag has a section on BW conversion from color. I think they discuss 4 methods using PS. I'll be practicing all of them then practice more dodge and burn techniques.

    I'm going to redo this shot and add vignette for a holga like appearance. Maybe I can add some "creepiness" to the shot.
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    Re: At church (in black & white)

    I love the framing and the ocncept, it really creates a feeling of loneliness. But the focus really ruins it for me. Why is the foreground is in focus, but not the boy?
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    Re: At church (in black & white)

    I'm trying to add "eariness" to this shot but I know most of you want it to be sharper. I used a lot of USM and I added vignette to add more character to the shot.

    What do you think?

    BTW, thank you Seb for the comments. Honestly, the reason why he is out of focus is pure inaccuracy on my part. I'm still trying to work with the shot as you can see. I think it has potential.
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    Re: At church (in black & white)

    Your second attempt really catches my eye. The fact that everything is in focus really enhances this image tenfold. Nicely done.

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    Re: At church (in black & white)

    Quote Originally Posted by molaselake
    Your second attempt really catches my eye. The fact that everything is in focus really enhances this image tenfold. Nicely done.
    Thank you. Do you think adding vignette made a major or minor difference?
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    Re: At church (in black & white)

    Manacsa,

    Unfortunately, sharpening an OOF shot is just not effective. A slight softness can be disguised, but here you're sharpening the sharp area and the soft area, always keeping that contrast going and cluing off the vierwer.

    The most important thing here is the concept. We can't nail every shot, we can only try. You came really close here, but I think it's time to move on. Keep your eyes open for things like this, mind the focus, and you'll have some killer shots.
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    Re: At church (in black & white)

    Thanks Seb! On to the next project! :thumbsup:

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