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    Can it be better ?

    Image #1 is a Unedited sunrise capture. Is the foreground too uninformative? I liked this image because of the natural colors.
    # 2 is a crop/unsharp mask, saturation adjustment. #3 is a clone tool...ect. modify.
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    Re: Can it be better ?

    I like the first one best.
    Can you lighten the trees just a bit to make it "informative"?
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    Re: Can it be better ?

    Starriderrick

    For me I would crop a third off the top of #1 and saturate the colours a little. I would possible crop a little off the bottom. In this photo detail in the foreground is irrelevant as its the clouds that you want to stand out. So if you can add a little detail make it very subtle.

    #2 looks good, but I would have left the tree in, but then I might not have difficult one to call

    #3 looks odd in that the patterns are to repetitive, I guess from where you cloned out the branches. However, it still sorts of works.

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    Re: Can it be better ?

    I'm going to have to go with the second one. For me, it is a good crop which makes the focus of the photo on the trees. The tree on the left frames it well and draws my eyes to the treeline and the early morning colors.

    To answer your question though, I think the uncropped foreground is a distraction from the rest of the photo.

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    Re: Can it be better ?

    Rick,

    I am getting a greenish cast to this image that I find odd. This is one of the 'good' monitors I am using and it was recalibrated in the last 4 hours.

    Sunsets and sunrises and cloud images suffer when they get posted. This one seems to have lost something (I am guessing) in the overall intensity or dynamic range.

    The foreground has a shape that doesn't compliment the rest of the photo, it is too heavy to even frame it well.

    The second photo (the pano style) seems to work better with this image.

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    I couldn't get the third image to load. Now I see it.

    That aside, one other thought, the forked tree branches in the first image at the right would add balance to the pano styles. I believe I would like the second and third pictures more if that element were not completely lost.
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    Re: Can it be better ?

    I tend to avoid sunsets unless the colour is absolutely spectacular or there is some tremendously visually appealing centre of interest in the foreground. Unfortunately neither is the case in these photos.

    The reason for my attitude is, to just mention one experience, I saw over 100 absolutely spectacular colour sunsets over lakes in cottage country, done on slide film with no filters by a 90 year old photographer. Since then I have seen a considerable number of other spectacular sunsets, so my perspective is different from some here.

    Part of learning photography is looking at a large number of great photos to gain a perspective of what is really a potentially great shot and what is simply an also ran, bland, snap.

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    Re: Can it be better ?

    I too feel the Fg is too heavy and feels like a dark mass rather than having interesting definitions. The two pano crops would be better with the trees framing the right side as in the original. I think a best crop would be to cut off half the FG from the bottom and clip off the left side to keep the ratio of the original. Your question was "Can it be better"? I think the right crop and bringing up some detail in the fg would help make it better.
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    Re: Can it be better ?

    Surprisingly, I enjoy the tone of the colors in this. Of the three you posted, I feel the second one is the best of the bunch. Just enough tree and not too much foreground.

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