Cactus League

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  • 10-11-2009, 05:52 PM
    Coastal Flyer
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    Cactus League
    This cactus bloom is the size of a dinner plate and was teaming with bees. The bees would fly deep into the pollen and come out so heavy they could hardly fly away. Hope you like them.
  • 10-11-2009, 08:23 PM
    Frog
    Re: Cactus League
    The first one.....ARGH petals/leaves leading off frame. ARGH!
    Not an item in the other two because they are so much closer.
    Sorry, but it always drives me nuts and they are quite nice otherwise.
    So nice with that nice dof and focus that I hate to mention the petals.
  • 10-11-2009, 08:59 PM
    GB1
    Re: Cactus League
    CF,

    Good shots... not great ones, but good.

    I like the way the softness is creeping into the bottom image. But it needs to be a little wider so not to clip off the pedals as it is, and perhaps a little more DOF so that the rear peddles are fully in focus. Good hovering bees!

    With the top one, I really like how the bottom greenish leaves look. Their tonal quality is soothing. But something about the flower that is too intense for a flower shot.. they need to be soft.

    G
  • 10-11-2009, 09:19 PM
    Coastal Flyer
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    GB/Frog:

    Yikes! It has been a while since I posted shots that were a complete swing and a miss. With the top shot, I thought I was doing good to retain the wonderful existing light throughout the exposier including the detail of the snow white pedals. They even have the darkness of the background shadow coming through. But, I understand the various points you have given me, so know I appreciate what you have said. Helps train the eye!

    Thanks,

    David
  • 10-12-2009, 07:57 AM
    GB1
    Re: Cactus League
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Coastal Flyer
    GB/Frog:

    Yikes! It has been a while since I posted shots that were a complete swing and a miss. With the top shot, I thought I was doing good to retain the wonderful existing light throughout the exposier including the detail of the snow white pedals. They even have the darkness of the background shadow coming through. But, I understand the various points you have given me, so know I appreciate what you have said. Helps train the eye!

    Thanks,

    David

    I absolutely don't feel that these are a miss. They're good in many ways - the colors, overall composition, contrast, etc. But I think flower shots require one to implement a different set of rules, e.g., some folks purposely soften them (decreasing sharpness). The rest I don't know, as I'm not much of a flower photographer.

    G
  • 10-12-2009, 08:27 AM
    Frog
    Re: Cactus League
    The petal thing is just my hangup.
    They are by no means a miss, especially the first one for me. Maybe not a home-run but definitely a double.
  • 10-12-2009, 08:28 AM
    Coastal Flyer
    Re: Cactus League
    GB,

    Thanks for the additional comments. I am not really a flower photographer either. Although my last to threads have been of flowers. Sometimes the subject is just so commanding I can't pass them up. Thanks again. As always, I appreciate the insight.

    David
  • 10-12-2009, 08:38 AM
    jetrim
    Re: Cactus League
    Frog's comments notwithstanding, I'd venture to suggest cropping in even tighter on the first shot - up to about the bottom of that center blade pointing straight at the camera. I really like the other two as is, but GB has a point that they may look as good or better with a "soft focus" treatment. You exposure control on the whites is absolutely excellent!
  • 10-12-2009, 03:14 PM
    Coastal Flyer
    Re: Cactus League
    Frog,

    Whew!! At least I am on base. The Angels just swept the Red Sox so I didn't want to drop the ball. Ok, enough sports euphemisms. I appreciate the insight. It is these tweeks of an image that will change heretofore bad habits.

    CF
  • 10-12-2009, 04:53 PM
    Old Timer
    Re: Cactus League
    I commented on this on in the gallery and I still think the first image is the winner here. I love the way the spread on the lower petals form a natural frame around that magnificent bloom and it's visitor. Beautiful photograph CF.
  • 10-12-2009, 07:01 PM
    annemaree
    Re: Cactus League
    I'd hang them on my wall anyday, especially love the first one :thumbsup:
  • 10-12-2009, 07:36 PM
    Coastal Flyer
    Re: Cactus League
    Oldtimer/Annamarie:

    Thanks so much for your comments. I appreciate it very much.

    David
  • 10-12-2009, 08:53 PM
    livin4lax09
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    i think the light on that first shot is unreal. Amazing, it made my jaw drop, the lighting is absolutely beautiful.
  • 10-13-2009, 05:13 AM
    Grandpaw
    Re: Cactus League
    I also think the first one is the winner! To me if this shot were cropped larger and included more of the pedals, the main focus of the flower and bee would get lost in all the space. I like the crop as is, Jeff
  • 10-13-2009, 10:00 AM
    Coastal Flyer
    Re: Cactus League
    Grandpaw/livin:

    Thanks so much for the kind words. Much appreciated.

    David

    P.S. I am less than three months from becoming a grandpaw for the first time. Very exciting!
  • 10-13-2009, 11:00 AM
    caleb
    Re: Cactus League
    I really enjoyed these. The bees aren't tack sharp. Although, with your small "story" about the bees, I didn't care since I was looking at the massive pollen sacs and the secondary troops going in.
  • 10-13-2009, 01:23 PM
    livin4lax09
    Re: Cactus League
    i keep coming back to this first shot, and keep being amazed.
  • 10-13-2009, 03:50 PM
    EOSThree
    Re: Cactus League
    I think the first is very good. The lighting is excellent, and I don't have any problems with the leaves leading off the frame at the bottom. The subject simply glows and I don't really even notice the leaves leading off the frame. I had to look long and hard to really know what frog was commenting on.
  • 10-14-2009, 08:19 AM
    Coastal Flyer
    Re: Cactus League
    Thanks all for your comments. This was a fun subject to shoot.

    David
  • 10-14-2009, 09:32 AM
    draymorton
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    I like the first one best and think it's a fantastic shot. Don't mind the pedals leading off the of the page at all. Not in this case.

    Great job. Flower shots are not nearly as easy as one might think.
  • 10-15-2009, 07:54 AM
    Coastal Flyer
    Re: Cactus League
    Draymorton:

    Thanks very much for leaving the comment. I don't feel as if I am particularly drawn to flowers as a subject. But, in the past month I have taken more flowers than ever. Whatever catches the eye, I guess. Thanks again.

    David
  • 10-15-2009, 08:28 AM
    fidgety
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    Number one is the best of the lot. It has good color, contrast and is sharp. Nicely done.
  • 10-15-2009, 08:38 AM
    Grandpaw
    Re: Cactus League
    David, I would like to congratulate you on soon becoming a grandpaw. They are all great but the first one is extra special. Be prepared to find out that your kids will know much more about being a parent and taking care of a baby than you do after reading the how to be a parent books and researching it online. Just thought I would give you a heads up on upcoming events, Jeff
  • 10-15-2009, 01:44 PM
    Coastal Flyer
    Re: Cactus League
    fidgety: Thanks so much. Very nice of you.

    Grandpaw: I have two children and I suspect neither will have a large family. While any number of grandchildren is a blessing, I think you are correct: the first will always be something just a tad special. Can't wait! Thanks for the advice. I wish the best for your family.

    David
  • 10-15-2009, 10:40 PM
    Canyon Hiker
    Re: Cactus League
    Awesome shots!! I love them all. The first one draws my eyes directly to the flower. The second directly to the bee, and the third combines them both. Great job David and thanks for sharing those.