The Blue Bus

Desaturated
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9058/bluebus.jpg

Normal full colour
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1...uebuscolor.jpg

So less colour or regular colour? I really am torn between the two. I'm slightly favoring the desaturated. What do you think?

I'd like to see it somewhere in between the two, the first almost looks like a selective BW as the bg is so monotone. I think it would be good to keep some sense of color in the back, but a soft subtle sort of moonlit looking color.

I didn't vote since there is no "between" option.

Wait a minute you Canadians like to misspell color too?! Aaah heck!

The blue does leap out at you, I think I prefer the full colour version.

BTW I reckon your spelling of colour is correct....:)

Tough call. I like both for different reasons, but think I may prefer the colour/color/couleur/cullah (New York spelling).

My question is, how did you get it so crisp/sharp? Seriously.

Charlie, yeah i didn't like the way the first one had a selective colour feel to it, and that's why i posted the 2nd one after second thought. thanks for the suggestion, oh and the way you guys misspell colour is astonishing lol.

Pete, thank you. yeah, everyone does it the correct way except those south of the border to us :D talk about wanting to be different. lol.

Seth, thanks. I think i'm leaning towards the cullah too.
my sharpness have been increasing ever since i bought a more proper tripod. (monfrotto something something) also, I was luck the people in the bus weren't moving. I couldn't go really high on the Aperture because I shot this at 6.3f and 13 seconds! already. I couldn't get any longer exposures for fear of people or even the bus getting out. lol. So, I really don't know. I shot at 13 seconds, heafty tripod, I think I was using my nikon 18-200mm and F6.3.

oh and obviously i was shooting using the timer mode, only because i forgot my shutter release cable at home.

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Originally Posted by LeeIs

Seth, thanks. I think i'm leaning towards the cullah too.
my sharpness have been increasing ever since i bought a more proper tripod. (monfrotto something something) also, I was luck the people in the bus weren't moving. I couldn't go really high on the Aperture because I shot this at 6.3f and 13 seconds! already. I couldn't get any longer exposures for fear of people or even the bus getting out. lol. So, I really don't know. I shot at 13 seconds, heafty tripod, I think I was using my nikon 18-200mm and F6.3.

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Okay... but, point blank, my images at 6.3 on a tripod with one of Canon's sharpest lenses (24-70L) on MLU are nowhere near that sharp. They look like total dogshit by comparison. I was wondering what kind of sharpening, if any, you might have done in post - and how much. The clarity is amazing - especially in the water! And that light reflection under the bus - wow!

Thanks, btw. Don't mean to be a pest. :D

p.s. Upon second look, definitely color.

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Originally Posted by draymorton

Okay... but, point blank, my images at 6.3 on a tripod with one of Canon's sharpest lenses (24-70L) are nowhere near that sharp. They look like total dogshit by comparison. I was wondering what kind of sharpening, if any, you might have done in post - and how much. The clarity is amazing - especially in the water! And that light reflection under the bus - wow!

Thanks, btw. Don't mean to be a pest. :D

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aah. i see, i love the 'clarity' slider when i open the raw files in photoshop. i usually boost that about 20%. that works wonders! how do you work with your raws?

also for upload purposes or when i'm printing, i might add a bit of unsharp mask. make the pixels very small. like 0.3 or 0.4 and the percentage a lot. like80%

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Originally Posted by LeeIs

aah. i see, i love the 'clarity' slider when i open the raw files in photoshop. i usually boost that about 20%. that works wonders! how do you work with your raws?

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Oh okay, thanks. I've been using clarity, too, but only at around +4 or 5... at the most. I also have been sharpening in raw at up to +30 which is probably a terrible thing to be doing. And sometimes a little Highlight recovery when necessary. But that's really it.

Make the pixels smaller? Elaborate please...

oh, I was talking about the RAW, when I open the file in the RAW dialogue box in Photoshop. I crank the clarity to 20% or about that depending on the photo. Just make sure you zoom in to see what it's doing.

The pixels smaller comment was about the unsharp mask dialogue box.
Amount: I make this high.
Radius: (0.4) I make this small. because it makes the sharpness more controlled to the pixels. I find that if this is high, photoshop will take a group of pixels and sharpen them together. you get me? this makes is cleaner for me. i find it very sloppy when i increase this.
Threshold: I leave this at 0.

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Originally Posted by draymorton

Oh okay, thanks. I've been using clarity, too, but only at around +4 or 5... at the most. I also have been sharpening in raw at up to +30 which is probably a terrible thing to be doing. And sometimes a little Highlight recovery when necessary. But that's really it.

Make the pixels smaller? Elaborate please...

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oh yeah, i don't bother with the sharpness in RAW. Clarity does a much better job.

I'd be happy with the colour version Liban. Personally I just see the point of selective colour.

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Originally Posted by Overbeyond

I'd be happy with the colour version Liban. Personally I just see the point of selective colour.

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Thanks Tom. It's not selective colour btw. it just looks it cause the background had very little colour (comparatively) even in the original so when i desaturate it loses most colour.

Thanks for clearing that up for me and I can see that now looking at the original again. Have to say though Liban that the finished image gives a very similar result when the van becomes coloured in a b/w environment.

I like the color edit the reflection is stronger. I do think you could work on the blown out light in the reflection. Well done.

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Originally Posted by Overbeyond

Thanks for clearing that up for me and I can see that now looking at the original again. Have to say though Liban that the finished image gives a very similar result when the van becomes coloured in a b/w environment.

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oh yeah. no doubt. this is one of the reasons i posted the colour image. i thought the desaturated, while nice, looked like a selective colour. other posters even touched on that in this very thread. but yeah I definitely agree, it give off the impression of a coloured in van and car behind it. thanks again tom

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Originally Posted by Greg McCary

I like the color edit the reflection is stronger. I do think you could work on the blown out light in the reflection. Well done.

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Thanks for the suggestion Greg.

yup color, very nice !

maybe crop a bit from the foreground, up to the smaller pebble ? so it looks more panoramic