Ray, i have been reading the posts on this thread and agreed with Sebastians issue with the original font. Kelly and Peter offered valid observations as well, and i think you have done well in taking the critiques into consideration and coming up with a much improved version. While Kelly's suggestion that a bit more vertical space be given to the "Landmark" type might improve even further, your latest version is very nice and looks to be a fine logo. well done, and best wishes to your new Church and Mission.