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    HDR Rattle Snake

    I have been digging around in my old images for any that I may have bracketed, and that line up pretty good. Here is one I found today of what I believe is a timber rattler.

    It is 2 exposures, I believe about 5 stops apart. Don't ask me why I took two images 5 stops apart, I don't remember.

    I used photomatix for the merge.

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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    A good idea. It would be better with more DOF though. I can see some noise in the top part of the photo, too.

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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    Why did you take two shots 5 stops apart? Sorry, couldn't resist.
    Looks pretty good with even exposure throughout.
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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    Quote Originally Posted by AgingEyes
    A good idea. It would be better with more DOF though. I can see some noise in the top part of the photo, too.
    The noise is mostly a product of the HDR conversion. If I were better at it I could control that better. But, I am still learning it. The DOF is my fault lol.

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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog
    Why did you take two shots 5 stops apart? Sorry, couldn't resist.
    Looks pretty good with even exposure throughout.
    I've honestly been trying to figure that out. First thought was my flash didn't fire, but the f-stops are way off, f/5, f/9. If the flash had simply not fired I'd expect the apertures to be the same.
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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    hmmm? I'd be puzzling over that too.
    I think hdr works best with the same f/stop and different shutter speeds if I understand correctly but maybe you've just proved it isn't necessarily so.
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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    well, I can't really comment on the technique - it DOES seem a bit noisy though...

    Actually I just wanted to chime in with an ID. Crotalus Adamanteus, eastern diamondback rattlesnake. Incredible find, I might add. If I'm ever down your way, it will be in my top two or three species to find...
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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    Looks pretty good. Maybe try Auto bracketing the exposure with camera set to continuous firing. Photomatix is going to introduce a lot of noise in the shadows. A decent noise reduction filter (Noise Pro) might help.

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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog
    hmmm? I'd be puzzling over that too.
    I think hdr works best with the same f/stop and different shutter speeds if I understand correctly but maybe you've just proved it isn't necessarily so.
    From what i gather it's a combination of the two. I usually set my camera to auto bracket 1-0-1, or 1/3-0-1/3.
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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    Quote Originally Posted by frleal70
    Looks pretty good. Maybe try Auto bracketing the exposure with camera set to continuous firing.
    Normally, as with the shot below, that is what I would do. However, as I stated in my OP, this is an old shot.... Well, two old shots, that I had never intended to combine. I am just playing around really.

    Here is a combo of 3 shots that I took specifically to make an HDR.
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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    Oh, right on. One of these days I'll learn how to read the entire post. That's a beautiful shot, btw.

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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    Quote Originally Posted by frleal70
    Oh, right on. One of these days I'll learn how to read the entire post.
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    We all do it...

    That's a beautiful shot, btw.
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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog
    I think hdr works best with the same f/stop and different shutter speeds if I understand correctly but maybe you've just proved it isn't necessarily so.
    I think, in general, that this statement is true (although I rarely do any HDR - and none for N&W). I think merging images with different DOF is what is causing the somewhat unusual OOF areas.

    Neat idea though. Something to think about if the conditions are right.
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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    nice eastern DB John.....
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    Re: HDR Rattle Snake

    One place where I've used this in N/W is when I have to fire a heavy flash to light a bird, but don't want a flash-shadowed background. I just leave the tripod set until the bird flies off, then take a properly exposed image of just the BG with no flash. I then merge the flash lit bird onto the naturally lit BG. Works OK, but not something I've done beyond the experimental phase.

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