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    INFRARED LOOK through DSLR

    Does anyone have any formula(s) that can achieve the same look just like doing it OLD SCHOOL (film with a red filter)?

    I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks.

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    Re: INFRARED LOOK through DSLR

    You can get the IR effect by using a Hoya 72 filter and reversing the red and blue channels in channel mixer. But since the DSLR has an IR block, exposure times are long and you will need a tripod. You will also have to manual focus and then put the filter on since you can't see your subject with it on. A Sigma SD10 has a removable IR block and is easily set up for IR without a tripod. It's not hard to do if you have the filter an can be quite fun.
    I have also read online you can buy a Canon G1, open it up, remove the IR block and replace it with a cut Hoya 72 and shoot tripod free as well.
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    Re: INFRARED LOOK through DSLR

    thanks.. i will try that method.

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    There are some ways to convert an image in Photoshop to make it look like an IR filter. Google digital IR in Photoshop and I'm sure you will come up with some tutorial. There are some plug-ins that you can get that will do all the work for you. I have a Fred Miranda plug in that converts a photo to an IR look with the press uf a button. Here is a before and after example of this plug in.

    Like Greg said, you can remove the IR filter from your camera, and then take IR pics. But, your camera will no longer take regular photos, so if you go with this method, I wouldn't use my main body. It's not a conversion that I would be willing to attempt myself either.

    I recently listened to an interview with Vincent Versace and he was talking about how he loved to shoot IR with his digital camera. He sent an older body to the company Life Pixel to have the IR conversion done. With the conversion, you don't have to use any filter, and you use your camera the same way you do now. The sensor is just as sensitive as it was before, so your exposures are the same as if you were using a regular DSLR.
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    Re: INFRARED LOOK through DSLR

    Quote Originally Posted by mjs1973
    There are some ways to convert an image in Photoshop to make it look like an IR filter. Google digital IR in Photoshop and I'm sure you will come up with some tutorial. There are some plug-ins that you can get that will do all the work for you. I have a Fred Miranda plug in that converts a photo to an IR look with the press uf a button. Here is a before and after example of this plug in.

    Like Greg said, you can remove the IR filter from your camera, and then take IR pics. But, your camera will no longer take regular photos, so if you go with this method, I wouldn't use my main body. It's not a conversion that I would be willing to attempt myself either.

    I recently listened to an interview with Vincent Versace and he was talking about how he loved to shoot IR with his digital camera. He sent an older body to the company Life Pixel to have the IR conversion done. With the conversion, you don't have to use any filter, and you use your camera the same way you do now. The sensor is just as sensitive as it was before, so your exposures are the same as if you were using a regular DSLR.

    Hey thanks for the FEEDBACK. How did you get that FRED MIRANDA plug-in from?

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    Re: INFRARED LOOK through DSLR

    It - and a bunch of other Photoshop actions - are available right here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by another view
    It - and a bunch of other Photoshop actions - are available right here.
    thanks!

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    How do you get the "color" IR photos? Those ones are my favorites.

    And I'm debating on purchasing an old Nikon D1h & sending it in to get IRified
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    If you shoot Canon you can rent a camera that is already setup with the infrared, either the 5D for about $200 a week or the XTi for about $125 a week. Both can be rented from www.lensrentals.com. I have rented from them once before and currently have two lens at the moment.

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    In the dark try pointing a TV remote at the lens of your camera and take a 30s pic. If the camera sees the light from the TV remote then its IR capable with the appropriate IR filter. Its best from the remotes with a bulb on the front, the light then becomes a round dot that looks like the bulb.

    Will test the 5D tonight. I know the Powershot Pro 1 was IR capable.

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    A photog I know has a camera that has a built in IR function on it, but I don't remember the model. I think it was a Sony but I'm not sure. It's a few years old so they might be kind of hard to find. I only saw one pic that he took using the IR setting, and it looked pretty good.
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    Re: INFRARED LOOK through DSLR

    The experiment - A canon 5D can see infra-red so with the appropriate filter it can take IR photography with no changes.

    Here is the photo from the Remote for the television.

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    Here is the photo from the Remote for the television.
    Oh no it isn't !
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    I found this in another forum..

    1. Create a Channel Mixer adjustment layer, setting the green channel to 200% and the red and blue channels to numbers that add up to -100% (notice the minus sign). This will give an overall 100% sum for all three channels. In the example in the magazine, he used -30/200/-70, but I think it depends on the picture.

    2. There is a good chance that the numbers above (esp. the 200% value for the green channel) will blow out the highlights. To get the detail in the highlights back, make the background layer active and create a Curves adjustment layer. (The Curves layer should be between the Background and Channel Mixer layers.) Select the green channel in the Curves dialog and drag the highlight point of the green curve down to reduce the brightness of the highlights. (In the example, it looks like he lowered the point about 12%.) This should restore detail in the highlights that were lost.

    3. If there is any sky (with clouds) in you picture, they are probably lacking contrast at this point. So, open the Layer Styles dialog box for the Curves layer and select the red channel layer blending options. Alt-drag the left triangle of the highlight for "This Layer". This will split the slider and help increase the contrast in the sky/clouds. (In the example, it looks like he moved the slider to 160/255 values.)

    4. Now you want to add a "glow" to the trees. Duplicate the Background layer and Gaussian Blur at 5.0. Then fade the filter to somewhere between 25-50% and set the blending mode to screen. Unfortunately, this may cause the highlights to blow out again.

    5. So, open the Curves adjustment layer and create a contrast-reducing curve (i.e., reverse-S), so that the angle of the curve in the center is less than 45 degrees. This should again restore the highlight details.

    6. Infrared should look grainy, so make the Background Copy layer active and apply the Add Noise filter using a value between 3 and 5 (make sure you check the monochromatic box.)

    7. You could stop here for a nice infrared B&W, but if you want to add a little color back, open the Channel Mixer layer again. Uncheck the "monochrome" box. You won't see a change until you move one of the sliders. But then a color adjustment will appear, based on the underlying color image. In the article, the following "experiments" were shown:

    a. Adjust the settings of the red channel to: +6/+194/-102.

    b. Leave those settings in place, then go to the blue channel and adjust to: -26/+174/-81, Constant: +13.

    c. Return to the red channel and change the settings once again so that the trees look green and the sky red: -28/+187/-40.

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    Re: INFRARED LOOK through DSLR

    Hi there,

    I have just been watching Vincent Versace lecture about infrared photography. He is such a genius. Does anyone know whether his photoshop actions are on offer anywhere?

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