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    many different kinds-film

    can anyone please school me on film?

    whats the difference between velvia,slide film,ect.

    also is there a certain kind of film for sepia or can that only be done in a dark room?

    thak you all for your help.but a beginner needs to start somewhere.

    thanks again

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    Re: many different kinds-film

    Hi,

    I am also a beginner........

    Fuji Velvia is slide film actually.Preferred by professional landscape photographers for their superb color and sharpness. What you see is what you get.......as others might say,when the slide is printed out.

    The others such as Fuji Superia are negative films.They get printed when developed, and you get your negatives......However, what you take might not be what you get, as the developer could correct your roll of film and leave you disappointed.....

    Anybody pls correct if I'm wrong......I wish to learn more.....thanks.

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    Re: many different kinds-film

    There are as you already said lots and lots of films on the market. I will not go through all the brands and makes, but you can devide them in slide (positive) films and print (negative) films. The sepia effect can be retrieved in the dark room or by modifying the image in a photo software program like Photoshop.

    Hope this helps.
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    Re: many different kinds-film

    Velvia is a Fuji Professional Slide film. Fuji has three different series of pro slide films:

    Astia: Least saturated, most natural looking color. Great for portraits, maybe architecture. Haven't used it myself but considered the "gold standard" by at least one fashion photographer.

    Provia: More saturated but still good Caucasian skin tones. Great for many uses like travel/editorial work, sports, nature. Also great for long exposures because very little reciprocity failure compared to other slide films. Provia 400F (ISO 400) has amazingly little grain, very uncommon in a 400 speed slide film. Also available in 100F (ISO 100).

    Velvia: Original 50 speed has very saturated color and really accentuates greens. Can make your backyard look like the Amazon rain forest but bad with Caucasian skin tones. Long exposures (talking star trails, an hour or so) can make the skies turn green. The new 100F doesn't quite look the same but much better for people shots.

    Fuji has Sensia consumer slide films but I don't have any experience with them. Kodak also has some great slide films but you probably want to avoid Kodachrome since there are very few places who process it anymore. All other slide films are "E-6" process and can be developed by a lot of places.

    The thing about slide film vs. print film and "What you see is what you get" is pretty much true, but both react differently to light. I think what you mean is that the slide itself (the film that went thru the camera) is the finished product, whereas the print is the finished product with neg film. A print is an interpretation (of a negative) of an interpretation (the scene you photographed). Prints can be "interpreted" many different ways by different labs, different people doing the work, etc. However, an advantage of neg film is that you don't have to worry as much about color correction like shooting inside a room lit with incandescent lights and not using flash. Slide film sees light differently than print film, and both see it different than your eyes do.

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    Re: many different kinds-film

    Quote Originally Posted by Laberin
    can anyone please school me on film?

    whats the difference between velvia,slide film,ect.

    also is there a certain kind of film for sepia or can that only be done in a dark room?

    thak you all for your help.but a beginner needs to start somewhere.

    thanks again
    Velvia 50 is a magnificent film to do magnificent landscapes. Contrast, saturation, deep blacks. But for everyday use - it feels like overkill.

    Provia 100F is a compromise. Its saturated enough to do landscapes, does a decent job on portraits, has moderate contrast so you can use it in less than optimium lighting. It scans well. It has a tendency to go blue but that might be to make it react better under tungsten light.

    Velvia 100F is like Provia 100F souped up to make it look more like Velvia 50. It doesn't have the tendency to go blue and seems to be a good choice for landscape.

    Astia 100F is like Provia 100F toned down to make it good for portraits (I've never used it).

    The latest Sensia 100 is pretty much identical to Astia 100F.

    Try the ones that sound right to you and make your choice.

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    Re: many different kinds-film

    Hi,
    I see a lot of people have responded about the film so I'll just touch on sepia toning. You can achive this old, rustic look in the darkroom, or anyroom for that matter. In the photo class I was in we took our black and white prints that we had developed in the darkroom and immersed them in blech for a few minutes till the image faded to a gostly looking picture. Of course I was nervous when I first did it and thought my teacher was crazy, but after rinsing it, we put it in toner and the image reappered only it was sepia toned! It's really fun and I recommend taking a class if you ever get the chance. Have Fun!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Laberin
    can anyone please school me on film?

    whats the difference between velvia,slide film,ect.

    also is there a certain kind of film for sepia or can that only be done in a dark room?

    thak you all for your help.but a beginner needs to start somewhere.

    thanks again
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    Re: many different kinds-film

    wow.thank you all very much.you have definitly helped.

    anymore comments are welcome

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    Re: many different kinds-film

    Was your interest exsclusively in Fuji slide film or in the variety of films on the market? Just want to clarify.

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    Re: many different kinds-film

    On the sepia tone. I took a couple of B&W classes at the local college. In the section on toning, we used a number of different toners, some store-bought, and others common household items. Bleach we never used, but we did use tea and even (gasp) furniture polish. Both gave a sepia/brown color, and the intensity of which varied with time in the tray.
    For a beginner, avoid slide film. It is often challenging to get a good exposure, and you can end up wasting a lot of expensive film. Go with print film, since you can get away with bad exposures/color casts and still have good prints. Print film is faster on the turnaround, so you get feedback sooner.
    I primarily shoot Provia 100F, since it's a very versatile film sutiable for common applications. Good color, sharp grain. I shot a few rolls of Astia- the pics of my neice were very nice. And Velvia was very good, but a tad too slow for my taste. Haven't tried the Velvia 100F, but hear it's good. A warming filter is a good buy for these films (and just in general), since they tend to turn bluish- Fuji reccomends an 81A to counteract this.
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    Re: many different kinds-film

    Agree with all of Franglais' comments about these chromes - especially that Provia scans much easier than Velvia. And like Outdoorsman says, if you shoot a lot of Provia, you'll pack an 81A warming filter. Kodak has E100GX which is a good all purpose slide film that has good across-the-board colors and great skin tones, but is a warmer balance than normal - just opposite of Provia.

    Kodak Ektachrome films seem to have more grain than Fuji's films. There are other differences too - I'm not saying that they're bad films by any means. Kodak has a certain look to it and so does Fuji. I prefer Fuji but a friend prefers Kodak.

    Best advice: Try a few under similar circumstances and see what works for you. A few years ago I tried Agfa RSX because Moose Peterson used only that type of film. I hated it - but then I rarely shoot brown fuzzy animals!

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    Re: many different kinds-film

    All of your info has been extremly helpful but I was wandering if anyone could advise further on the best slide films for photographing people and getting great skin tones outside. I have come to understand that Provia 100f or Astia 100f are better is this true?

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