that is actually very good point since my dad did buy nice quality lens...

I was looking at D80 (i saw used body itself for $500 ish price range)
for pentax i guess K10 would be similar model to look at then...

but, only thing that is stopping me from getting Pentax is that it doesnt seem that it is such popular brand... (i could be wrong but looking at retail store and others, it sorta speaks for itself)

but that is very good point...

*also, sorry, i didnt write it clearly... low lighting and also lightning which yes, the long exposure would do it i guess.. but my question to photographing such a pictures, what kind of lens am i looking at? someone told me perhaps 18-105 but... wow... it was quite expensive at brand new