Planning to get another lens(es) Need some help!

[corei5]

oh sad thing I don't own full frame camera maybe somewhere in the future I will upgrade to full frame.

Is there any other way to get more DOF using this 70-200 or 55-250 on a cropped sensor cameras? (thinkin move further from the subject?)

[Photo-John]

I think you misunderstood me. You get more depth-of-field with the crop sensor camera and less with the fulll frame. For me and my 7D this is good. It gives me more DOF focus padding when I'm shooting a mountain biker or skier in action.

[OldClicker]

I think you misunderstood me. You get more depth-of-field with the crop sensor camera and less with the fulll frame. For me and my 7D this is good. It gives me more DOF focus padding when I'm shooting a mountain biker or skier in action.

You know you/re making me groan, don't you. Terry

[Photo-John]

You know you/re making me groan, don't you. Terry

Yeah. I don't mean to, though. You should consider that I get to use all kinds of cameras and I make the conscious decision to go with the APS-C sensor because of my experience. It's not like I don't understand. I have found that there really are practical benefits to the APS-C format. I shot with the full-frame 5D Mk II a whole bunch before the 7D came out and aside from the image quality difference, I am much happier with the 7D.

[OldClicker]

It's not like I don't understand.

That's my point - YOU do understand - but you are telling these things to those who don't. Just like I didn't not long ago. - TF

[Photo-John]

That's my point - YOU do understand - but you are telling these things to those who don't. Just like I didn't not long ago. - TF

And trying to explain it as I do. And you're here to counter anything I post that you consider misinformation. We make a good team!

[corei5]

so final thought this lens is best bang for the money

I'm gonna get this somewhere this month

[Photo-John]

so final thought this lens is best bang for the money

I'm gonna get this somewhere this month

Excellent decision. You will not regret it!

[XizorGetspeed]

If I can also benefit from this thread...

Is this the lens you guys are talking about?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...specifications

how would you compare it to a non canon but lower fstop like:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...specifications

i'm brand spanking new into this. Just picked up my first dslr (t2i/550d) and eager to learn...

[corei5]

If I can also benefit from this thread...

Is this the lens you guys are talking about?
http://www.photographyreview.com/Com...2847/KBID/3790

yes we were talking about this lens

[XizorGetspeed]

Cool. So what do you think? Is the tamron worth the extra $$$ in terms of image quality.

It's much heavier though...

[corei5]

some people said the tamron is good but the focus is slow compare to canon but its good for low light f2.8.

[Loupey]

...now planning to get another lens for portrait photography, general-purpose photography and wildlife photography...

I don't know what percentage of usage will be for wildlife photography. I'm assuming a fairly large percentage since 200mm is a bit too long for the other types that you mentioned.

For wildlife, 200mm is going to be too short. Even a 300mm on a crop body is too short if you intend to get into it at some point in the near future. So if you really wanted to buy a lens geared more for wildlife, I suggest saving up and buying something that will be more in the focal length that you will need.

[corei5]

Oki I really have decided to get this lens also looking for a cheap monopod to support this non-IS lens because I dont want to carry my tripod every time. My uncle and I are planning to go to Virginia water next week so probably monopod should be alright to carry around instead of heavy tripod O_o

Used monopod if its possible.

(UK) base online dealers.

[CaraRose]

I'd recommend a ballhead with a quick release for it. Snap on to use, snap off and hey, I got a good walking stick

[XizorGetspeed]

any thoughts of this?
http://www.henrys.ca/365-CANON-EF-70...-USM-LENS.aspx

seems to be similiar price and goes to 300mm and you get IS.

I don't understand what it means when it says F4-5.6

[XizorGetspeed]

oops double post.

[corei5]

I don't understand what it means when it says F4-5.6

I think the widest aperture you'll get on that lens is F4 (not zoom out) up to F5.6 when its fully zoom out.

The 70-200mm F4L lens have a constant aperture of F4 even its fully zoom out.

[CaraRose]

I think the widest aperture you'll get on that lens is F4 (not zoom out) up to F5.6 when its fully zoom out.

The 70-200mm F4L lens have a constant aperture of F4 even its fully zoom out.

Yep, the aperture will vary on the zoom for the 70-300mm.

Which is a very nice lens, I understand it to be much better than the 55-250, but the image quality is not as good as an L lens.

[corei5]

I still havent tried 70-200mm F4 L but I will when I get back to that shop..didnt have a chance because I was in a hurry..

[XizorGetspeed]

K I guess we are looking at different purposes. I went into henrys yesterday with a buddy that is pro, and I tried out all 3 lenses:

1) tamron 70-200 2.8, my first impression was OMG it's huge! He told me all 2.8 lenses of that focal length will be that big. Loving the 2.8 at that price range, but not practical at all for me. I wanted something for walking around, no monopod required.
2) canon 70-300 4-5.6 with IS. Much more reasonable size and what I expected. Snapped a few pics of this as well, and was really happy with sharpness and image quality. Tried switching IS on and off and saw a big difference.
3) canon 70-200 4l, non is. They had the is version but out of my price range. My shots blurred at max 200 but the rep pointed out I would need to work on my breathing techniques and stance (I'm a week new). So you can probably hold a steadier hand than I. I was very amazed at the speed of autofocus and how quiet it was. It wasn't really that much faster but wow it was quiet. Great picture quality if you get a steady shot.

I ended up buying the 70-300 4-5.6 with IS. I valued the range more (200 just wasnt enough) and at my skill level, IS was very important. At 200mm the lense gave me an f-stop of 5.

So I hope the above brings some benefit to you.
I guess in the end, actually going in and trying these lenses made making the decision very easy.

Thanks!

[corei5]

K I guess we are looking at different purposes. I went into henrys yesterday with a buddy that is pro, and I tried out all 3 lenses:

1) tamron 70-200 2.8, my first impression was OMG it's huge! He told me all 2.8 lenses of that focal length will be that big. Loving the 2.8 at that price range, but not practical at all for me. I wanted something for walking around, no monopod required.
2) canon 70-300 4-5.6 with IS. Much more reasonable size and what I expected. Snapped a few pics of this as well, and was really happy with sharpness and image quality. Tried switching IS on and off and saw a big difference.
3) canon 70-200 4l, non is. They had the is version but out of my price range. My shots blurred at max 200 but the rep pointed out I would need to work on my breathing techniques and stance (I'm a week new). So you can probably hold a steadier hand than I. I was very amazed at the speed of autofocus and how quiet it was. It wasn't really that much faster but wow it was quiet. Great picture quality if you get a steady shot.

I ended up buying the 70-300 4-5.6 with IS. I valued the range more (200 just wasnt enough) and at my skill level, IS was very important. At 200mm the lense gave me an f-stop of 5.

So I hope the above brings some benefit to you.
I guess in the end, actually going in and trying these lenses made making the decision very easy.

Thanks!

that is a very nice handheld testing with those lenses, indeed that 70-300 4-5.6 have a very reasonable price along with the IS feature maybe each of us have different taste of features. Monopod wouldn'y hurt my arm carrying it nor tripod just its a hussle sometimes carrying a tripod so decided to get a monopod.

I know you don't have to hold your breathing for long because of this non-IS lens but in that few seconds you body have a possibilies to shake in any case.

Question:
How about the others what do you value? as GetSpeed said he value the range.

still haven't had a chance to touce the 70-200mm F4 L..haha I know I've said this already just temped to touch it and get it but can't go elsewhere yet because of college O_o.