• 09-02-2004, 08:40 PM
    natatbeach
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    RePost: new thread B/W+skin=being artistic
    I had posted this in Critique a while back trying to get advice on cropping and whtehr it really had nay impact as a whole.....and with all the nude, nekkid, naked, nuddie butt
    talk I thought I would open up the subject of artistic "nudes"...

    Challenge: post body abstracts that contain skin and are in BW

    ...if we can exclude nipples and general genetalia( I know killjoy) it would allow other members that have expressed a general discomfort with that to view this thread

    Remember ---artistic---some kinda skin---BW....Have fun. :D
  • 09-02-2004, 08:59 PM
    walterick
    Great! I have one I just took a minute ago!
    Oh,

    "if we can exclude nipples and general genetalia..."

    Nevermind.

    :p
  • 09-02-2004, 09:05 PM
    paulnj
    well count me OUT then ;)
  • 09-02-2004, 10:11 PM
    villenadecorte
    OH COME ON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paulnj
    well count me OUT then ;)

  • 09-02-2004, 10:28 PM
    opus
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    Well, OK, I've got something g-rated. I took this a couple weeks ago intending to use it as a "self-portrait" :p but I wasn't completely happy with it. It might work better here in B&W....

    I'm not sure how "artistic" it is, although I did a lot with hues and saturation and contrast before I converted it. I loved how it looked with green against magenta. :cool:

    But here it is ... errr, here I am ... in all my naked glory:


    (oh, ps. getting this shot was lots of fun. :rolleyes: I had to actually balance the camera on my nose, cheek and chin and use the self-timer as I held my breath and prayed it wouldn't fall off my face for the ten seconds of the timer. Plus, I couldn't look through the viewfinder so I had to use my best guess as to placement of my hands. After about 15 shots I got real good at it. :) )
  • 09-02-2004, 11:13 PM
    walterick
    Okay Nat
    I took a bunch of "nudes" just for you!! No nipples or genetalia to be found here, I swear (though it may appear so :p )

    Here's my first-ever attempt at self-nude photography (does that shock anyone? - grin - )
  • 09-03-2004, 12:01 AM
    Charles Hess
    Nat...that's a very nice 'bodyscape' you've posted. Many old-timers here know that I did mostly glamour/nude work awhile back, so I'll have to dig through my files and post some under your criteria. Though I enjoy photographing nudes, I've always maintained that the graphic imagery seen so much on the Internet is not at all erotic or sexy, as erotica is in the imagination of the viewer, in my opinion. Your image is artsy, plus erotic.
    Rick ... good attempts here, especially the 3rd one.
  • 09-03-2004, 12:19 AM
    walterick
    Charles -
    I'd love to see some of your stuff in here! I'd bet you've got some good abstracts lying around somewhere.

    Funny you should bring it up - I was attempting (unsuccesfully) to explain to someone recently the difference between "porn" and "erotica." To me there's a world of difference between the 2. I think most people tend to clump "nudity" and "sexuality" into "porn" but I believe there is a lot of beautiful eroticism out there that is tastefully done and appeals to our natural sense of sexuality without being sexist, exploitative, or just "gross." I wonder what other members have to say about this...

    Oh, and thanks for the compliment. I was just playin around :o

    Rick
  • 09-03-2004, 03:43 AM
    natatbeach
    oh yea
    the third one is quite nice...

    see I knew you could do it!
  • 09-03-2004, 03:44 AM
    natatbeach
    cool shot...good technique and I was shocked at the amount of skin showing...

    you are adventurous ;) :D
  • 09-03-2004, 03:47 AM
    natatbeach
    sorry about the criteria...I actually put it into place to get people to be creative without being blatantly graphic...not that you would be the sort of person to just post of pic of your "stuff"
    :rolleyes:

    but just in case :D

    common Paul...we know under that tired guy is a wild nudist ready to reveal his artsy side ;)
  • 09-03-2004, 04:14 AM
    natatbeach
    Thanks Charles
    One of the shots that appealed to me in your gallery...was the erotic abstracts 4 in your gallery.

    I guess with everything there is a fine line with it being tasteful...and there is a fine line with how you process the imagery.I like the subtlety of some of your images.

    It's funny that society has turned milk producing glands into such a huge thing. Pretty much that's the purpose of breasts and everyone gets into such an uproar when you showcase them, even in an artsy sort of way.

    I guess with everything there is a fine line with it being tasteful...and there is a fine line with how you process the imagery.

    thanks for sharing your thoughts...I have a bizillion different ideas for bodyscapes...some day I'll have the time to shoot them all...
  • 09-03-2004, 05:05 AM
    adina
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by walterick
    I took a bunch of "nudes" just for you!! No nipples or genetalia to be found here, I swear (though it may appear so :p )

    Here's my first-ever attempt at self-nude photography (does that shock anyone? - grin - )

    Is that your butt?
  • 09-03-2004, 05:48 AM
    Speed
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    Warning: Nipple Shot
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by natatbeach
    I had posted this in Critique a while back trying to get advice on cropping and whtehr it really had nay impact as a whole.....and with all the nude, nekkid, naked, nuddie butt
    talk I thought I would open up the subject of artistic "nudes"...

    Challenge: post body abstracts that contain skin and are in BW

    ...if we can exclude nipples and general genetalia( I know killjoy) it would allow other members that have expressed a general discomfort with that to view this thread

    Remember ---artistic---some kinda skin---BW....Have fun. :D


    It may be against the rules, but get over it!

    Playing with the Coolpix 5700 a few months back. Camera on a tripod, self-timer, indoor lights, converted to grayscale for Nat's thread.

    PS: I'm a cyber rebel! ;-)
  • 09-03-2004, 05:54 AM
    natatbeach
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    bad bunny
    we already went thru this...although this nipple shot is much better than the original scary hamster shot....

    wonder why it is that it's weird for people to look at a pic of a woman's nipples and some find it offensive but a man's niple in adfvertising is totally o.k.

    the way the mind works is fascinating...

    try a tighter crop of the left side (your right in the pic) so it's half your chest and your shoulder....see attached
    ;)

    Thanks for playing
  • 09-03-2004, 05:55 AM
    natatbeach
    glad you asked
    cuz I wondered the same thing.... :D :rolleyes: :confused: :eek:
  • 09-03-2004, 10:22 AM
    opus
    Hey Nat, I was experimenting this morning, and I got something very abstract that I really like, but it contains the SHADOW of my nipple.

    Is that ok?
  • 09-03-2004, 10:57 AM
    Speed
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    The Bunny, The Bunny, Oh, I Love The Bunny...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by natatbeach
    we already went thru this...although this nipple shot is much better than the original scary hamster shot....

    wonder why it is that it's weird for people to look at a pic of a woman's nipples and some find it offensive but a man's niple in adfvertising is totally o.k.

    the way the mind works is fascinating...

    try a tighter crop of the left side (your right in the pic) so it's half your chest and your shoulder....see attached
    ;)

    Thanks for playing


    Hey, I've watched Veggie Tales too!!!

    :-)

    Though the Hairbrush Song is my favorite.

    ;-)

    Here's a slightly tighter shot I took after the first one. Yes, it needs cropping too. I shot more than a dozen shots from different angles, different lighting directions, etc. I deleted all but these two. As I said, I was playing around, trying to learn a little about lighting angles. And the more I learn, the more I realize how much I DON'T know!
  • 09-03-2004, 11:00 AM
    Speed
    I Say Go For It
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kellybean
    Hey Nat, I was experimenting this morning, and I got something very abstract that I really like, but it contains the SHADOW of my nipple.

    Is that ok?


    She said no nipples or genitalia - she didn't say anything about shadows.

    But that's me, and I'm a literal kind of guy. (That comes from seven years in the Air Force, and reading too many technical manuals)
  • 09-03-2004, 12:11 PM
    walterick
    Well, since you asked...
    No, it's not my butt, it's actually a shot of my arm (somehow) If it had been a shot of my butt, it would have been much rounder and prettier :D
  • 09-03-2004, 12:21 PM
    walterick
    I love milk glands!
    You make a good point, Nat! How come the female's glands are sexual and the male's are not? Some cultures haven't sexualized the breats at all, they're like elbows. Did some patriarch decide years ago that men needed more sexual arousal, so he decided that women should sexualize (ie hide) their breasts? And then our human sensitivities followed? (you must admit, the woman's breasts are more sensitive than most other parts of her body) I don't know, but I think it's obscure.

    I say, BUCK THE SYSTEM!! If all you females were to start walking around topless, we could no longer see breasts as sexual! Yeah, that's it! All the ladys, throw offf your tops and let those things out! Let's see those bras thrown up in the face of the American system! GO GIRLS GO!!

    I'll be there all the way!

    ;)
  • 09-03-2004, 12:23 PM
    walterick
    Speed,
    When I think about you,
    I touch myself.
  • 09-03-2004, 12:28 PM
    Speed
    Hey Rick, Put That To Music...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by walterick
    When I think about you,
    I touch myself.


    And you've got a song.

    Wait a minute, I think it's already been done.

    ;-)
  • 09-03-2004, 12:36 PM
    walterick
    Lol
    Damn, I'm always a day too late with these ideas of mine!

    Now, if I can just get that film/digital hybrid idea off the ground :D
  • 09-03-2004, 12:50 PM
    Speed
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    Get Ready For A Cold Shower
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by natatbeach
    I had posted this in Critique a while back trying to get advice on cropping and whtehr it really had nay impact as a whole.....and with all the nude, nekkid, naked, nuddie butt
    talk I thought I would open up the subject of artistic "nudes"...

    Challenge: post body abstracts that contain skin and are in BW

    ...if we can exclude nipples and general genetalia( I know killjoy) it would allow other members that have expressed a general discomfort with that to view this thread

    Remember ---artistic---some kinda skin---BW....Have fun. :D


    Here's a blast from the past! June 1991. This is me and my buddy Chuck after our first triathlon. I'm on the left. This is my favorite portrait of me.

    Now remember ladies, I'm a happily married man. Sorry. Now go take a cold shower. ;-)
  • 09-03-2004, 01:33 PM
    walterick
    Dude!
    You were ripped!

    Now, you've got me going. Here's my favorite "back shot" of myself :D
  • 09-03-2004, 02:03 PM
    opus
    OK, I've gotten approval to post my shot, but suddenly I'm too chicken.....
  • 09-03-2004, 02:34 PM
    darkman
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    I'm not sure if this are abstract enough. But it's as close as I've come with any recent material. It is kind of quick and dirty too. Done very fast so I could show proofs to the model.


    Enjoy your long weekend!

    Mike
  • 09-03-2004, 02:36 PM
    natatbeach
    Attention PJ
    ]Could you just start and I love myself thread for Speed and walterick...

    This thread is out of control
    ;) :D

    COULD SOMEONE ANYONE post ANYYTHING ...just to turn this thread around please :)

    Edit: took out themselves
  • 09-03-2004, 02:43 PM
    opus
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    OK, fine, here you go Nat ...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by natatbeach
    ]Could you just start and I love myself thread for Speed and walterick...

    This thread is out of control
    ;) :D

    COULD SOMEONE ANYONE post ANYYTHING of themselves...just to turn this thread around please :)

    I guess I'm sorta breaking the rules but believe me, the nip is just a shadow. Have fun figuring out how I took this shot.

    I took this this morning. I used sunlight for my light source. I'm hoping my neighbors didn't see the show .... ;)
  • 09-03-2004, 02:46 PM
    villenadecorte
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    After Speeds Post I figured I'd take a cold bath...
    And here are the results of that....

    Since its supposed to be an abstract, I cropped and edited down, also desaturated.

    VillenaDeCorte

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Speed
    Here's a blast from the past! June 1991. This is me and my buddy Chuck after our first triathlon. I'm on the left. This is my favorite portrait of me.

    Now remember ladies, I'm a happily married man. Sorry. Now go take a cold shower. ;-)

  • 09-03-2004, 02:46 PM
    natatbeach
    Thank you....finally
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kellybean
    Here's one I took this morning. I used sunlight for my light source. I'm hoping my neighbors didn't see the show .... ;)

    it's always good to have a good rapport with your neighbors..btw ..I'm .jealous
    :D ;)
  • 09-03-2004, 02:47 PM
    natatbeach
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Speed

    But that's me, and I'm a literal kind of guy. (That comes from seven years in the Air Force, and reading too many technical manuals)

    o really so which part of the "no nipples and genitalia" were you confused about...must be from all those years in the military...
    ;) :D
  • 09-03-2004, 02:47 PM
    villenadecorte
    perfectly perky!
    Damn woman! What a perfect shape!
    If your neighbors caught the show, I am sure they didnt mind ;)
    Very interesting shot. It's definitely abstract.

    VD

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kellybean
    I guess I'm sorta breaking the rules but believe me, the nip is just a shadow. Have fun figuring out how I took this shot.

    I took this this morning. I used sunlight for my light source. I'm hoping my neighbors didn't see the show .... ;)

  • 09-03-2004, 02:49 PM
    darkman
    But...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by natatbeach
    ]Could you just start and I love myself thread for Speed and walterick...

    This thread is out of control
    ;) :D

    COULD SOMEONE ANYONE post ANYYTHING of themselves...just to turn this thread around please :)

    Nat, you didn't specify of yourself when you started this thread!

    Mike
  • 09-03-2004, 02:49 PM
    villenadecorte
    very beautiful!


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darkman
    I'm not sure if this are abstract enough. But it's as close as I've come with any recent material. It is kind of quick and dirty too. Done very fast so I could show proofs to the model.


    Enjoy your long weekend!

    Mike

  • 09-03-2004, 02:51 PM
    darkman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by villenadecorte
    Damn woman! What a perfect shape!
    If your neighbors caught the show, I am sure they didnt mind ;)
    Very interesting shot. It's definitely abstract.

    VD

    It's also VERY B&W too! Great Job Kellybean

    Mike
  • 09-03-2004, 03:09 PM
    natatbeach
    yeah now it's staring to come around a bit...I like this one...subtle
    :)
  • 09-03-2004, 03:13 PM
    natatbeach
    Lol
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by villenadecorte
    and after speed's post I had to go take a cold shower....And here are the results of that....

    and again LOL

    This is cool...I like the strands of wet hair coming fromt the top...so where was the camera?

    la toilet or on a tripod...youdid a good job framing it all...Thnaks for playing
    ;)
  • 09-03-2004, 03:17 PM
    natatbeach
    Clarification
    O.k. it's been edited :D