Wall In The Hole--comments please?

Does this work? Thanks for looking.
John
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ahole72ppi.jpg

The concept is great. I don't find anything appealing about a balcony with a BBQ on it. If there were a couple kissing.....an old man watching the day..... Nice exposure choice, I like the blurred backround.

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Originally Posted by Jonas Mancuso

The concept is great. I don't find anything appealing about a balcony with a BBQ on it. If there were a couple kissing.....an old man watching the day..... Nice exposure choice, I like the blurred backround.

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True, it's not a very compelling shot on the surface, it would have been nice to have a couple kissing or an old man watching the day, but it is what it is. I had two different looks for this.....one with the DOF as it is, and one where the 'wall' is in focus and the 'hole' is not. It's more important to me to find out if the concept works, and you validated that. It's a shot that I can always go back and get when there's more going on. Thanks.

I think you've hit upon a very interesting scene just waiting for a subject. I find these all the time. I probably have hundreds of these little places on a list in my head. Whenever I have some extra time on my hands, or a dramatic cloud day or I just happen to be in the area, I'll drop in on them and see if anything presents itself. Good execution of this so far John, I would definitely keep prowling this spot. :thumbsup:

John, I think this is a cool shot. Honestly, I didn't see the background (balcony) to be a problem because I was hung up trying to figure out what the foreground is (I still don't know!). If whatever it is is portable, it would be even cooler to carry it around town and shoot a bunch of other backgrounds with it.

The one pick would be the upper lefthand corner - crop that out by going in just a hair tighter and less rectangular.

Neat!

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Originally Posted by Loupey

John, I think this is a cool shot. Honestly, I didn't see the background (balcony) to be a problem because I was hung up trying to figure out what the foreground is (I still don't know!). If whatever it is is portable, it would be even cooler to carry it around town and shoot a bunch of other backgrounds with it.

The one pick would be the upper lefthand corner - crop that out by going in just a hair tighter and less rectangular.

Neat!

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Loupey---take it from me, the foreground object is far from portable--unless I have a large crane. It is a large circular dish-like creation outside the local public museum. Conveniently, the hole is right where you can place your camera for this kind of shot. I have a picture of it, but it's badly shaded. I'll try to get a better shot of it the next time I'm down there.
John

The confussing thing about this photograph John, for me anyway.
Is that it's hard to figure out just what the subject is.
Is it the hole and the black framing or is it the red building?
I like what you were are doing, but I think you need to decide what the subject is.
As I see it, I get the felling that the building is the subject, because of the framing and that the buidling is so much brighter than the black frame.
Make sense?
If you can, go back to this scene and photograph it again.
Good Luck!
Brian

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Originally Posted by mtbbrian

The confussing thing about this photograph John, for me anyway.
Is that it's hard to figure out just what the subject is.
Is it the hole and the black framing or is it the red building?
I like what you were are doing, but I think you need to decide what the subject is.
As I see it, I get the felling that the building is the subject, because of the framing and that the buidling is so much brighter than the black frame.
Make sense?
If you can, go back to this scene and photograph it again.
Good Luck!
Brian

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Good point, Brian. I think what you're saying is in line with Jonas. By itself the building is pretty blah. It needs another element to alter the focal point. I just might hang out there for a couple of hours to see what develops (NPI) :p

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Originally Posted by swmdrayfan

Good point, Brian. I think what you're saying is in line with Jonas. By itself the building is pretty blah. It needs another element to alter the focal point. I just might hang out there for a couple of hours to see what develops (NPI) :p

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There you go!
You are learning now John!
Keep it up!
Brian
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I agree with the last couple of posts; however, the texture on that thing in front is fantastic. It kind of makes it an interesting photo anyway.

Ok, to satisfy everyone's curiosity, here's a quickly adjusted shot of the structure I was looking thru. I plan on going back to get more shots, and hanging around to see if anything interesting happens.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...re/TheHole.jpg

WoW! Really? I was almost willing to bet it was a reflection of some kind. I think you did very well here and there should be lots of opportunities for something interesting to walk along in front of that should you return.

The angle of view for the center looks a little tough, I guess that's why we were looking at a balcony in the center. At the risk of looking a little silly maybe you could bring a small step stool or step box or something to help elevate your viewpoint and make this thing work to your advantage a little more. Or pre focus and do some blind shots by just holding the camera up and taking your best guess. The point I am trying to make is that the experimental plane for something like this is wide open. Go after it from all angles.

Good Luck!

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Originally Posted by CLKunst

WoW! Really? I was almost willing to bet it was a reflection of some kind. I think you did very well here and there should be lots of opportunities for something interesting to walk along in front of that should you return.

The angle of view for the center looks a little tough, I guess that's why we were looking at a balcony in the center. At the risk of looking a little silly maybe you could bring a small step stool or step box or something to help elevate your viewpoint and make this thing work to your advantage a little more. Or pre focus and do some blind shots by just holding the camera up and taking your best guess. The point I am trying to make is that the experimental plane for something like this is wide open. Go after it from all angles.

Good Luck!

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Cindy, this thing is worth a couple hundred shots and several hours by itself. I'm not worried about looking silly, but being accosted by Museum officials or the police does worry me a little.

If it's on a public sidewalk and not obstructing pedestrian traffic and you're not leaning on it you should be OK. And you can always say, "Oh really? Gee, I didn't know that!" If someone wants to talk to you about it. Or you could call ahead to the museum and ask them what their policies are and if you need a permit or special permission. Attaching a concept image can help with that if you decide to e-mail them

OK, not very portable.

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Originally Posted by Loupey

OK, not very portable.

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I could ask if they plan on moving it, and just follow wherever it goes.

While I was looking at the shot again it struck me that I never checked to see if I could shoot thru the back side--d'oh.

Throw a tennis ball or something at the window and take a picture of whoever comes out...viola--a subject! :)