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    Crap Through A Goose

    Test shot from last week.

    Thinking about cropping more cinematically, down halfway into the helmet and up to just below the bottom of the canteen.

    Thanks for any thoughts, comp-related or general.


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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    Except for the chain, there's no reason for it to be as wide as it is. Cropping the top or the side would put the chain into something that's hangin in midair. Still, I'm not sure anything on the left side actually presents anything. I wouldn't cut anything off the top or bottom myself,

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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    Nice shot!

    What did you do to this shot? Looks HDR ish, or did you put somesort of filter on it?

    One thing that i keep noticing: Did you lighten up one eye? I'm curious why it is lighter than the other cause the lighter should have quite evenly lit his face.

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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    Thanks both.

    wfooshee - I see what you're saying, but I really wanted a sense of place... and depth. Which is why I also shot wide-open. But maybe I'll try closing in around him more. Never thought of that.

    However: for the crop I was considering, the chain would be completely out-of-frame.

    ctn - thanks! Good "eye." Yes I did lighten. Should I darken it... or lighten the other one?

    And no filters, etc. Just a lot of dodging and burning. The jacket looks the way it does because of the d/b and the type of sharpening I used.

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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    I think i would remove it, the other eye does not need lightning in my opinion.
    Also adjust the bit running down over his cheek down to his chin.

    I would have to see it to be sure tho

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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    Okay, cool.

    Cheek/chin... do you mean reduce the highlights?

    Also: is the slightly blurred right hand an issue?

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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    Ye, lighten it all a bit more, or reduce it all together. Seems a bit unnatural to me now

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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    It was long wait from the last image you shared an image, but , wow! it was worth the wait!

    The comments already made are beyond my critique filter , in other words , I love it ....


    well, one comment:
    my mind kind of converts this image instantly to B&W, in that context the color of the cigarrete and flame look out place, but I'm really stretching in order to critique something

    test shot ?!?!?

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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    ctn - okay. Good to know for the reshoot, too (assuming it actually happens).

    armando - thanks! Sorry, do you mean that you'd like it better in b/w... or that it *seems* like a b/w because it's so desaturated? I was actually wondering whether or not I should increase the saturation all the way around.

    Haha.. yup, test shot. Had I been a little more careful, we could have had a final product already.

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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    You need to throw some dirt on him, the grenade too.
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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    Good point, Greg. Maybe some of that can be done in photoshop. I'm not sure how he'd feel about scuffing up his stuff. So that's a tricky one. Maybe I can try some kind of texture or something. But yeah, I definitely agree.

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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    Good to see some new work, Seth. I think there are some good suggestions already such as Gregs mud slinging party but instead if"dirtying" him up i would suggest and try bringing some of that atmosphere you created in the background down around him a bit more like you did with the helmet and face. Love the crop, Crop Master Flex. Environment is good.
    The only other "issue" for me on this fine image is the cigarette. I'm not convinced of the glow at the cigs end. Perhaps it needs smoke?(easily added) Maybe gray ash and smoke so its not so clean and fresh looking. This works for me, just a bit of tweaking to some details to bring it on a next level.

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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    Glad you brought up the cigarette, Gary. It's too bright - one of the things that was really bothering me. The glow at the tip is real, so it shouldn't look fake. I think it's the brightness. Adding smoke is a good idea, too, but I might as well just have him puff some on the next shoot.

    Bringing in the grunge around him would be a more practical solution, even though Greg's idea would lend more realism. I'm going to have him put some dirt on hands and face next time, though.

    EDIT: I'll see what I can do with these suggestions and repost.

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    Re: Crap Through A Goose

    Bringing in the grunge around him would be a more practical solution, even though Greg's idea would lend more realism. I'm going to have him put some dirt on hands and face next time, though
    good idea !:thumbsup:

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